Moderators: eCat, hedge, Cletus
its freebie, church. no sponsoring needed (no money needed to run it), we are all volunteers. we just use church facilitiesGator by God's Grace wrote:who sponsors your counseling center IB? the gummint? a church? is it for-profit?
are you a counselor? an admin?
http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/borde ... y-asshole/hedge wrote:What is BPD?
Hedge, we can't help these people.... they need to want to change themselves. I've never seen it happen.AVfM wrote:A long-term pattern of unstable or turbulent emotions, including frequent displays of inappropriate anger.
A pattern of impulsive actions and chaotic relationships, including, but not limited to impulsiveness with money, substance abuse, sexual relationships, binge eating, and shoplifting.
Intolerant, often hostile reaction to being alone.
Repeated crises and acts of self-injury, such as wrist cutting or overdosing.
...and....
A remarkable facility for lying and manipulation, particularly for sympathy and adulation, but also to enlist action from others that will further their personal objectives for revenge or retaliation.
A propensity to make false allegations of rape, sexual abuse and domestic violence.
A near bottomless capacity for vengeance over the least, or even imagined, slights.
A sadistic pleasure in causing unwarranted harm to others who are perceived to be enemies, or even those determined to not love them “enough.”
The capacity to justify and rationalize any abusive behavior, no matter how extreme or how innocent the victim. No moral compass.
The repetitive demand that others sympathize with them, even as they cause destruction in the lives of innocents.
The distorted mindset that the abuse they inflict is not abuse, but that objecting to it or fighting back is abusive to them.
If we attempt to "try" and help a Borderline, these people are calculating and clever enough to seek VENGENCE out against the center if we say something to them that they might not like to hear. And since they are (by their very nature) amoral, they would have no qualms about suing a church.hedge wrote:Also, if you really believe that you can't help them, why would even attempt to try? Why would the possibility of being sued have anything at all to do with your decision not to help them if you really believe that you cannot help them in the first place?
I don't care.hedge wrote:"A near bottomless capacity for vengeance over the least, or even imagined, slights."
I certainly feel this towards you, IB...
I don't dispute that divorce in Florida is down, but this being too broke to split up mystifies me. I'm finding that the reason people are splitting up is specifically BECAUSE they are now (for what may be the first time in their lives) broke.Gator by God's Grace wrote:divorces in FL are down because of the economy- folks too broke to split up.
How do you figure you are qualified to counsel these people?innocentbystander wrote:Gator by God,
I volunteer as a counselor in the marital counseling dept. Our primary goal is to try and save marriaged that are ending. There has been a lot of marriages ending over the last 4 years, (pretty much always a loss of $$$$$ os the cause.) It gets dicey when the divorcing spouse (pretty much always the wife) involves her parents when they are the ones encouraging the divorce.
Typically, it is simply a matter of terrible timing.Bklyn wrote:What Gator is describing are two people too broke to split up and try to find a place to live on their own, when neither of them can do that.
What IB is describing is a woman with a job and a man unemployed and she's tired of carrying his water, since she can survive without his dead weight (the "I can do bad by myself, why do I need you" principle).
I read a lot.Cletus wrote:How do you figure you are qualified to counsel these people?innocentbystander wrote:Gator by God,
I volunteer as a counselor in the marital counseling dept. Our primary goal is to try and save marriaged that are ending. There has been a lot of marriages ending over the last 4 years, (pretty much always a loss of $$$$$ os the cause.) It gets dicey when the divorcing spouse (pretty much always the wife) involves her parents when they are the ones encouraging the divorce.
I bet they try to cure gay people of their affliction.hedge wrote:Do ya'll do any other type of counseling (not marriage related)?
