College Football - I'm Serious, They're All Student Athletes

[hedge]

Good god, man, we got it...

[tin mad dog]

I don't know who reads which forums. Does everyone read every single forum?

[Bklyn]

no way.

[AlabamAlum]

Every time the SEC wins, the ridiculous articles start.

The SEC is playing by the rules. A couple of years back (2?) the B1G, on their own, had the idea of offering 4-year schollies (a bad idea) and have spent every waking moment complaining that other conferences didn't follow follow along with them. And "for ethical reasons"? Heh. Looks like someone replaced 'PR' with the word 'ethical'.

Finally, Bama did not cut 20 players in 2010. Apparently that hatchet piece included everyone who quit football for any reason.

[hedge]

Any reason? Like being made fun of so mercilessly by Saban that they had no choice but to quit?? That's not ethical...

[Owlman]

One would think that giving 4 year scholarships when other schools only give one year scholarships are a recruiting advantage. The fact that the SEC still beats the Big 10 in recruiting suggests even a greater problem for the Big 10 schools

[Jungle Rat]

All players should be on a 1 year scholarship.

[Bklyn]

If you're a parent trying to figure out the economics of schooling your kids and your daughter has an opportunity for an athletic scholarship, you'll sing a different tune.

[tin mad dog]

[quote="AlabamAlum"]Every time the SEC wins, the ridiculous articles start.
/quote]

Why does Tulane Law school have an axe to grind?

[AlabamAlum]

Let me ask you a question: why would Tulane Law write about college football to begin with? Anyway, their axe to grind: they hate the SEC. They have since they left it a long time ago. Also, Tulane was one of the first to threaten lawsuits back in the 1990's.


Let me ask you a question: if Nick Saban were kicking 10-20 players a year off the team, how could he ever have 85 on scholarship with a max of 25 signed per class? Yeah. You can compare rosters from 2010 to the year after and see that there is no way. That BS goes back to a shoddy hatchet-piece and debunked newspaper article complaining about Saban's use of medical hardship scholarship where they found ONE disgruntled ex-player (who took the hardship and bitched about it being unfair even though he never tried to play anywhere else - because he was too injured, apparently).

[tin mad dog]

Must be another axe here....

http://deadspin.com/5876535/just-as-he- ... ning-rules

[10ac]

Show me the piece of paper.

[AlabamAlum]

He verbaled to Bama and then shredded his ACL in a HS game. Other offers he got dried up. Saban asked him to delay signing by one semester and told him he would help him get a job at UA (which is legal according to the NCAA) while be rehabbed and healed.

The young man readily agreed. The story got out. A coach decided to offer even with the knee. Therefore, Saban is a win-at-all-cost asshole.

[tin mad dog]

Another in the "Nothing to See Here, Move Along." category

eyewitnesses see bama players using banned substances

The company that says it provided deer-antler spray, a product that contains a banned substance, to Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis also sold its goods to members of the 2012 national championship Alabama football team, according to a co-owner of the company.

And Christopher Key, the SWATS co-owner, told ESPN's Joe Schad on Wednesday he personally witnessed about five Alabama players spray what he sold them into their mouths.

"I showed them how to use it," Key said.

Key said about 20 players purchased the spray at a hotel room in New Orleans leading into the BCS national championship game against LSU. And he said he sold about 20 more bottles to players at the apartment of an Alabama player 10 days before the game.

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Sports Illustrated first reported the connection between SWATS, an Alabama-based company, and several SEC programs.

The Sports Illustrated story reported that Key filmed a sales pitch to a number of Alabama players two days before the 2012 title game in New Orleans. The article mentioned former Crimson Tide defensive lineman Quinton Dial and current players Adrian Hubbard and Alex Watkins as being part of the sales pitch.

Watkins made a YouTube testimonial for SWATS, and Hubbard was filmed in the hotel room saying he had the deer-antler spray, SI reported. Deer-antler spray contains a substance, IGF-1, which is on the NFL's banned list.

"Nothing we offer them will make them fail a drug test," Key said, when asked about the substance being banned by the NCAA. "This will make you heal faster. This will give you nutrients. There have been many clinical studies."

Key said he has received cease-and-desist letters from Alabama, LSU and Auburn demanding not to use current players' likenesses. Auburn spokesman Kirk Sampson said that school sent a cease-and-desist letter in 2011. "But you can't tell me I can't talk to your players," Key said. "We live in a free country."

Alabama, in a statement issued Tuesday night, said: "UA has been aware of this situation for some time, and we have monitored this company for several years. They have twice ignored cease-and-desist letters sent by our compliance office. We have maintained consistent education of our student-athletes regarding the substances in question and will continue to do so."

Key said players bought products at a rate he cited as confidential.

"They want to win," he said. "After the games they said they couldn't believe how they weren't tired and how much energy they had."

Key was quoted by SI as explaining the benefits of the spray to the Alabama players.

"You're familiar with HGH, correct? It's converted in the liver to IGF-1," Key explained, according to the Sports Illustrated report. "IGF-1, or insulin-like growth factor, is a natural, anabolic hormone that stimulates muscle growth. We have deer that we harvest out of New Zealand. Their antlers are the fastest-growing substance on planet Earth ... because of the high concentration of IGF-1.

"We've been able to freeze dry that out, extract it, put it in a sublingual spray that you shake for 20 seconds and then spray three [times] under your tongue. ... This stuff has been around for almost 1,000 years, this is stuff from the Chinese," Key said, according to the magazine.

However, a professor at Johns Hopkins University told the Baltimore Sun that, despite SWATS' claims, there isn't an acceptable scientific way that IGF-1 can be effectively delivered orally.

"If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don't need to get shots anymore," Dr. Roberto Salvatori told the newspaper. "It's just simply not possible for it to come from a spray."

Key said he sold about 20 bottles of deer-antler spray to LSU players before the regular-season meeting with Alabama that year. Key said he has also provided healing hologram "chips," which are stuck to the body, to Auburn players during their national-championship season and this past season sold healing "bands" to players at Ole Miss and Georgia.

SI reported that the Alabama coaching staff was unaware of the meetings in the hotel room.

Key said he has initially reached out to many of his athlete clients through Facebook and Twitter. He would not comment on which players at which schools he sold deer-antler spray to this season. Key said at certain points, the strength staffs at Alabama and LSU said they did not endorse his dealings with players.

"I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble," Key said. "The whole idea is to compete without cheating. We're not bad guys."

Key said several players from SEC schools he claims to have sold products to reached out to him on Tuesday.

"They wanted more product," he said.

[tin mad dog]

Polls not a part of the BcS process:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footba ... ob-bowlsby

[tin mad dog]

Ole Mi$$, getting up to speed with its peers:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1507 ... -bills-pic

[Bklyn]

Maybe he found a bag of money.

[tin mad dog]

Speaking of money in the $EC:

http://www.bloguin.com/crystalballrun/2 ... money.html

[tin mad dog]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... ryone-else

[tin mad dog]

ol' Bammy is getting tuned up for the new season:


http://collegespun.com/sec/alabama-sec/ ... ds-of-cash