Florida State Seminoles

[Jungle Rat]

So, are those astronauts home yet?

[innocentbystander]

yes



Of course the media wont cover it

[hedge]

"Paloverde is hiring, big bucks. They all have six figure jobs tomorrow if they can get to Phoenix. Of course SRP and APS might not give them $6K a month pensions at age 50."

Look at you with the acronyms. You are literally nobody and nothing. You don't exist...

[Saint]

I don't really care about all those deportees or banks or NSSA. The second shit starts going south for me because of Trump's bullshit or our state GOP, I'm going to start shooting. Good fucking luck, motherfuckers!

[eCat]

I don't understand these worthless son of a bitches that decide its an act of protest to key a Tesla that is already bought by someone.

I mean, that's someone's property and you don't even know this person. Jewish owners are getting swastikas being keyed in their cars.

These fucked up liberals just think they are justified in doing this stuff. just another reason why America in general is tired of their entitled asses.

[Jungle Rat]

yes



Of course the media wont cover it

Why did you lie?

[innocentbystander]

Thank Elon Musk

[hedge]

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[innocentbystander]

hedge, none of these injunctions matter. Of course Trump will ignore them. They are to be ignored.

I may not have liked it (actually, maybe I do like it) but the Biden Administration did have total authority and autonomy to pull all our GIs and everyone out of Afghanistan. The GOP did not run to a judge and beg and plead for a damn injunction to stop it because even if they got one (and they could) whoever was running the executive branch during the Biden years would have ignored it. No police were coming to the White House with the restraining order threatening to arrest Biden if he disobeyed the judge and even if they did, Biden would have ignored the cops as well. And they could not have touched him. He had total authority to act.

This is all about authority. And people like you just do not want Trump to have any authority, that's all. That said, the federal judges have ZERO AUTHORITY to stop the President (any President) from deporting illegal aliens. Zero. They can't stop it. There will be NO POLICE sent to the White House to stop Trump from doing any of this and even if they DID go to the White House, the Secret Service men would draw their guns and tell the cops to stick their badges and their authority up their assholes and fuck off if they tried to present the President with a restraining order.

[hedge]

"the federal judges have ZERO AUTHORITY to stop the President (any President) from deporting illegal aliens."

Once again no one is shocked that you don't even know what the issue at hand is or, if you do, you dishonestly frame it as something you know is untrue. So either you're an idiot or a liar. Or both..

[hedge]

Wouldn't matter who appointed him, but of course the Magats in here and elsewhere will attempt to make it an issue for any "democrat" appointed judge. But this guy was appointed by Bush. Of course Maga considers Bush or anyone not named Trump to be a "RINO." I guess the only rulings Maga will accept are ones that come from Trump-appointed judges only. And even then they'll come up with something if one of them rules against their cult leader god-king...

[innocentbystander]

Neither actually hedge.

No one is going to get impeached. Not the judge. Not Trump for now the 3rd time. No one. No one is going to lose any jobs or any power. This is all just talk and pride and feelings getting hurt, that's all. And none of the deportations will be stopped. None. All the flights happened. All the men were deported. It will continue to happen and all the "temporary restraining orders" will be ignored as none of them are enforceable.

You enforce a restraining order with police, badges, and guns. That is how they are enforced. There really can't be any other way to enforce them other than to threaten someone with arrest for violating them. Of course Trump will be violating them and of course, nothing will happen. No one will be coming to arrest the President if he tells judge Boasberg to fuck off. And really nothing will be happening to judge Boasberg.

[aTm]

Roberts is right and Roberts is wrong. Obviously, impeachment is not the mechanism to fight single lawful judgements. However, it absolutely would the Constitutional solution if the legislative branch feels that a judge's ruling is based on politics or anything else outside of the law. The Supreme Court has the ultimate jurisdiction to appeal that single order, but the Senate is absolutely the judge and jury if the House of Representatives feel that any level of misconduct is involved in a judge's rulings. The Senate is the venue if you actually believed that judges were corrupt or politicized.

Its all fucking stupid. Impeachment is just bullshit show, just like the ones the Democrats tried on Trump. You'd just get to see all these mouthbreathers get their degenerate faces in the media. You're not getting 2/3 of the Senate to vote for removal. You're only hope is that the judge just caves and resigns instead of dealing with all the horseshit, but they're not gonna do that if they're already some true believer to the point where they think their rulings are fighting the MAGA coup or whatever.

[innocentbystander]

Roberts is right and Roberts is wrong. Obviously, impeachment is not the mechanism to fight single lawful judgements. However, it absolutely would the Constitutional solution if the legislative branch feels that a judge's ruling is based on politics or anything else outside of the law. The Supreme Court has the ultimate jurisdiction to appeal that single order, but the Senate is absolutely the judge and jury if the House of Representatives feel that any level of misconduct is involved in a judge's rulings. The Senate is the venue if you actually believed that judges were corrupt or politicized.

Its all fucking stupid. Impeachment is just bullshit show, just like the ones the Democrats tried on Trump. You'd just get to see all these mouthbreathers get their degenerate faces in the media. You're not getting 2/3 of the Senate to vote for removal. You're only hope is that the judge just caves and resigns instead of dealing with all the horseshit, but they're not gonna do that if they're already some true believer to the point where they think their rulings are fighting the MAGA coup or whatever.

Exactly. Nothing is going to happen. The impeachments are all bullshit, no one is being fired. This is all just pride and horseshit. The deportations will continue unabated. And judges can keep signing injunctions and they will continue to be unenforced and ignored.

[hedge]

You seem mighty cavalier about the unconstitutional ceding of the powers of one of the Constitutionally created branches of government (the judiciary) to another one (the Executive), simply b/c they don't have the power to enforce it. I guess that's what it all comes down to. Would you be OK with a military coup b/c they have all the guns and bombs and planes and ships? Trump orders the military to do something and they laugh and say "make me." He can't, and you seem like you'd be fine with that, simply b/c he doesn't have the power to enforce his orders. That's basically (exactly, actually) what you're saying regarding Trump ignoring judicial rulings. Careful what you wish for...

[hedge]

Just saw this posted in another forum, sums up the situation quite well:

Yeah, we're living through a very tired and historically unremarkable pluto/kleptocratic revolution. The question remains, how bad does it get, for how many people? How uneven are the economic levers? How uneven are the means of violence? How uneven are the rhetorical talents? How uneven is the will?

[hedge]

How Republicans Learned to Love High Prices​
Donald Trump’s allies have pivoted from denying that his tariffs will hurt consumers to insisting that consumers should welcome the pain.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... aign=share

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Alternate title: Take your medicine and like it, plebeians …

“… The counterargument—until recently associated with the political left—is that cheap and varied consumer goods are not worth sacrificing the strength of America’s domestic-manufacturing sector. Even if we accept that (questionable) premise, however, it doesn’t justify Trump’s tariffs, because those tariffs will hurt domestic manufacturing too. About half of U.S. imports are intermediate goods, raw materials, and capital equipment that American manufacturers use to make their products and sell them here and abroad. Contrary to conventional wisdom, these imports increase domestic-manufacturing output and jobs. Thus, for example, an expanding U.S. trade deficit in automotive goods has long coincided with gains in domestic automotive output and production capacity, and past U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum caused a slowdown in U.S. manufacturing output. Even if domestic manufacturers don’t buy imported parts, simply having access to them serves as an important competitive check on the prices of made-in-America manufacturing inputs. This is why Trump’s recent steel-tariff announcementgave U.S. steelmakers a “green light to lift prices,” as The Wall Street Journal put it.

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Imports such as construction materials, medical goods, and computers also support many U.S. service industries. And imports are important for leisure and economic mobility. By trading for necessities instead of making them ourselves, Americans have more free time to use for fun or self-improvement (and more disposable income to pursue such things). According to a new studyin the Journal of International Economics, “between 1950 and 2014, trade openness contributed to an additional 20 to 95 hours of leisure per worker per year”—invaluable time we can devote to entertainment, family, community, or education.

“Access to cheap goods” isn’t the American dream, but it sure helps us achieve it. This is particularly true for low-income workers who have tight budgets and little leisure time. Shelter, food, transport, utilities, and clothes accountedfor approximately 68 percent of the poorest 20 percent of U.S. households’ annual expenditures but just about half of the richest 20 percent of households’ spending.

It’s easy for someone worth, say, $521 million, like Bessent, to pay a few bucks more for everyday goods and still achieve his goals and ambitions; it’s far more difficult for a single mom with four kids to do the same….”

[innocentbystander]

You seem mighty cavalier about the unconstitutional ceding of the powers of one of the Constitutionally created branches of government (the judiciary) to another one (the Executive), simply b/c they don't have the power to enforce it. I guess that's what it all comes down to. Would you be OK with a military coup b/c they have all the guns and bombs and planes and ships? Trump orders the military to do something and they laugh and say "make me." He can't, and you seem like you'd be fine with that, simply b/c he doesn't have the power to enforce his orders. That's basically (exactly, actually) what you're saying regarding Trump ignoring judicial rulings. Careful what you wish for...

(shrugs)

We elected a President, not a judge. Who gets to give the executive orders? POTUS. Who is entirely and solely responsible for enforcing immigration law? POTUS. You know how I know that? The Obama Administration sued the ever living shit out of the state of Arizona when we tried to enforce those federal laws at the state level.

Just because a judge hates an executive order, it does not mean POTUS lacks the Constitutional authority to make it. These injunctions are purely political, a POLICY injunction. If only the executive branch had any real authority at enforcing immigration law, it appears that at least one federal judge wanted to make sure it was ONLY a POTUS that HE LIKED that was authorized to do all the enforcing, a law that the democrat party never wanted enforced at any level in the first place.