Florida State Seminoles

[Jungle Rat]

Wow

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"the issue here is not George Floyd, its a combination of their irrational hatred for Donald Trump"

I will address you other points later, but for now I'll just say that the hatred that many have for Trump is not irrational at all (except insofar as any emotion is irrational, of course, but I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant at all)...

[eCat]

as it relates to using George Floyd as an excuse to riot it is.

Trump is not responsible for police brutality to George Floyd. Trump is not responsible to systemic racism in local police forces.

but even by your response, you show you can't separate George Floyd from Donald Trump

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He's damn sure not responsible for that economic prosperity that you touted in your post either...

[hedge]

But he is most assuredly 100% responsible (as commander-in-chief and all that) for calling out the military to deal with the protests. A position, I might add, almost universally derided by the top brass in the military itself...

[eCat]

He's damn sure not responsible for that economic prosperity that you touted in your post either...

you can argue whether he is or isn't, but what you can't argue is the fact they've had the greatest economic prosperity under him.

[Jungle Rat]

Bullshit

[eCat]

But he is most assuredly 100% responsible (as commander-in-chief and all that) for calling out the military to deal with the protests. A position, I might add, almost universally derided by the top brass in the military itself...

He can only call the national guard in Washington DC. Without the insurrection act, he cannot call the national guard or military in all the other cities the national guard was called into

so some politicians thought it was a good idea.

so was Donald Trump responsible for George Floyd's death?

[hedge]

Crotch? Prof? Oh wait, they don't do any physical exercise. Guy was arrested and charged, BTW. Boo-hoo...

[eCat]

Andy Beshear - Gov KY - Democrat
Tim Walz - Gov Minnesota - Democrat
Pritzker - Gov Illinois - Democrat

all called in the national guard on protestors.

[hedge]

"so was Donald Trump responsible for George Floyd's death?"

Certainly not. But he is definitely largely responsible for the general feeling in the country that allowed something like this to lead to the response that we've seen. You yourself said "These riots are in a sense happening because its not 2015." Why wouldn't they have happened if this had happened in 2015? We both know the answer, but there's no way you'll assign any blame to your god Trump. For anything, it seems...

[hedge]

National guard is not the standing military. For fuck's sake, you could be in the national guard. See what I mean??

[Jungle Rat]

Weekend warriors

[eCat]

no I don't blame Trump for that.

these people rejected Trump the moment he was elected. Antifa didn't pop up just last week. I've been talking about how they were out of control for at least 2 years on here, especially under the protection of sympathetic Mayors along the west coast that rejected Trump.

They can want it 2015 all they want, just like I wanted to keep my Cadillac health care plan in 2014, but you know what? elections. as Mr. Obama said, have consequences and whether people like it or not they don't riot because of a dutifully elected president.

[eCat]

National guard is not the standing military. For fuck's sake, you could be in the national guard. See what I mean??

the BBQ owner you decried as an innocent victim was shot by the national guard

I'm sure they handed out water bottles and blankets too...you know being they aren't a real military.

it probably would have been much worse with trained military I'm sure.

[Jungle Rat]

Antifa. LOL! Best econony. LOL! National Guard. LOL!

This is awesome!

[eCat]

"so was Donald Trump responsible for George Floyd's death?"

Certainly not. But he is definitely largely responsible for the general feeling in the country that allowed something like this to lead to the response that we've seen. You yourself said "These riots are in a sense happening because its not 2015." Why wouldn't they have happened if this had happened in 2015? We both know the answer, but there's no way you'll assign any blame to your god Trump. For anything, it seems...

Btw, under Obama did we not have Michael Brown in Ferguson? Trayvon Martin? The Charleston Church shooting?

so why didn't this happen if it was 2015? Ferguson was August 2014
Charleston was 2015, Trayvon Martin was 2012. I'm sure there is at least one more I am forgetting

oh yea, Lebron was wearing his first I can't breathe shirt on December 8, 2014 in support of Eric Garner

Again, this is the rejection of Trump simply because in their eyes he represents white America, but America had the same issues under Obama.

[Jungle Rat]

IT'S OBAMAS FAULT!

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"America had the same issues under Obama."

Sure we did, but at least back then we had a president that at least seemed like he gave a shit about it...

[eCat]

"America had the same issues under Obama."

Sure we did, but at least back then we had a president that at least seemed like he gave a shit about it...

yea, he probably wore a I can't breathe shirt too.

it made all the difference to the people suffering I'm sure.

but your statement was those riots wouldn't have happened in 2015.....all while having a president who "gave a shit about it" doesn't seem to hold up to me.