Ostensibly Hoops
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
Not to many having to deal with any sanctions.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
fans in that situation always talk about how patient they are going to be and how they are going to give the guy time to get his guys in there
and then by the end of year 2 they are pissed because Akron University beat them by 20 points at home.
and then by the end of year 2 they are pissed because Akron University beat them by 20 points at home.
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
Duke, NCAA found no issues with Marvin Bagley's eligibility, cleared him to play
By Jonathan M. Alexander and Steve Wiseman
March 29, 2018 07:19 PM
The income Marvin Bagley III’s father received from Nike for running the summer basketball team his son played on prior to his one season at Duke did not prevent the NCAA from approving his eligibility to play at Duke last September. A Duke official on Thursday said the school and the NCAA cleared Bagley to play.
"We and the NCAA evaluated his amateur status and determined him to be eligible," Todd Mesibov, Duke's compliance director, said about Bagley in a statement.
As it normally does with elite basketball recruits, the NCAA Eligibility Center completed an exhaustive examination of the Bagley family’s finances before approving Bagley to play college basketball at Duke this season, according to sources close to Duke's basketball program. A story published by The Oregonian recentlydetailed how Bagley's father, Marvin Bagley, Jr., filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in April 2008 and that their home was sold via a trustee’s sale -- an indication of a foreclosure -- in 2011. But, by 2015, the Bagley’s had moved to a gated community in southern California where the homes were valued between $750,000 and $1.5 million with monthly rents ranging from $2,500-7,500, according to The Oregonian story.
In between, Nike sponsored the Phoenix Phamily team that participated in the Nike’s Elite Youth Basketball League. The elder Bagley was the team’s director. Under the NCAA's guidelines, shoe companies can fund such summer-league teams, paying for uniforms, shoes, travel and the coach’s salary without jeopardizing the players’ eligibility.
It is against the NCAA's amateurism rules, however, for athletes or prospective student-athletes to profit off their own likeness, or receive any form of payment other than an athletic scholarship. Athletes who want to turn professional are forced to play at least a year of college and give their services in exchange for free tuition.
The Oregonian story came at a time when the FBI is investigating bribery and fraud schemes that allege college basketball programs, shoe companies and agents conspired to funnel money to convince recruits to sign with specific schools. Bagley and his father have not been named in the federal investigation.
Last summer, when Bagley completed high school a year early and enrolled at Duke, he had to receive approval from the NCAA Eligibility Center in order to play for the Blue Devils this season. That process involves determining the player has completed the required academic coursework and achieved standardized test scores that allow him to be eligible from an academic standpoint. The NCAA also ensures that player has not violated amateurism guidelines. While the family or the player receiving money from a sports agent would violate those guidelines, there are no rules preventing a family member drawing a salary from funds a shoe company provides to run a summer-league team.
In January, multiple websites were selling merchandise, such as T-shirts and mugs, with a blue illustration of Bagley's face on them. In cases like that, athletes or the schools they attend, are required to take steps to stop it.
At the time, Jon Jackson, a spokesperson for Duke athletics, said the school’s licensing and legal teams were aware of the issue and “will take whatever action is necessary for NCAA, intellectual property and trademark purposes.”
“This is not the first time we’ve had to address this kind of issue with one of our student-athletes and we are taking the necessary steps through our compliance office and legal counsel to address it,” he said. “In all other instances such as this, the eligibility of the student-athletes was not in question.”
When asked last week what he thought of the NCAA's amateurism rules, the younger Bagley said, "I'm not the one making the rules, but it's definitely a shaky thing why you can't make money off of your own likeness.
"But I see stuff that's sold online, and that's kind of tough to see. It's very tough to see that. But it's whatever. They have an established set of rules. I'm just here to play. Follow whatever rule it is, just do what I can to follow it. Just do my best to play off of this team, and that's what I did all year."
By Jonathan M. Alexander and Steve Wiseman
March 29, 2018 07:19 PM
The income Marvin Bagley III’s father received from Nike for running the summer basketball team his son played on prior to his one season at Duke did not prevent the NCAA from approving his eligibility to play at Duke last September. A Duke official on Thursday said the school and the NCAA cleared Bagley to play.
"We and the NCAA evaluated his amateur status and determined him to be eligible," Todd Mesibov, Duke's compliance director, said about Bagley in a statement.
As it normally does with elite basketball recruits, the NCAA Eligibility Center completed an exhaustive examination of the Bagley family’s finances before approving Bagley to play college basketball at Duke this season, according to sources close to Duke's basketball program. A story published by The Oregonian recentlydetailed how Bagley's father, Marvin Bagley, Jr., filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in April 2008 and that their home was sold via a trustee’s sale -- an indication of a foreclosure -- in 2011. But, by 2015, the Bagley’s had moved to a gated community in southern California where the homes were valued between $750,000 and $1.5 million with monthly rents ranging from $2,500-7,500, according to The Oregonian story.
In between, Nike sponsored the Phoenix Phamily team that participated in the Nike’s Elite Youth Basketball League. The elder Bagley was the team’s director. Under the NCAA's guidelines, shoe companies can fund such summer-league teams, paying for uniforms, shoes, travel and the coach’s salary without jeopardizing the players’ eligibility.
It is against the NCAA's amateurism rules, however, for athletes or prospective student-athletes to profit off their own likeness, or receive any form of payment other than an athletic scholarship. Athletes who want to turn professional are forced to play at least a year of college and give their services in exchange for free tuition.
The Oregonian story came at a time when the FBI is investigating bribery and fraud schemes that allege college basketball programs, shoe companies and agents conspired to funnel money to convince recruits to sign with specific schools. Bagley and his father have not been named in the federal investigation.
Last summer, when Bagley completed high school a year early and enrolled at Duke, he had to receive approval from the NCAA Eligibility Center in order to play for the Blue Devils this season. That process involves determining the player has completed the required academic coursework and achieved standardized test scores that allow him to be eligible from an academic standpoint. The NCAA also ensures that player has not violated amateurism guidelines. While the family or the player receiving money from a sports agent would violate those guidelines, there are no rules preventing a family member drawing a salary from funds a shoe company provides to run a summer-league team.
In January, multiple websites were selling merchandise, such as T-shirts and mugs, with a blue illustration of Bagley's face on them. In cases like that, athletes or the schools they attend, are required to take steps to stop it.
At the time, Jon Jackson, a spokesperson for Duke athletics, said the school’s licensing and legal teams were aware of the issue and “will take whatever action is necessary for NCAA, intellectual property and trademark purposes.”
“This is not the first time we’ve had to address this kind of issue with one of our student-athletes and we are taking the necessary steps through our compliance office and legal counsel to address it,” he said. “In all other instances such as this, the eligibility of the student-athletes was not in question.”
When asked last week what he thought of the NCAA's amateurism rules, the younger Bagley said, "I'm not the one making the rules, but it's definitely a shaky thing why you can't make money off of your own likeness.
"But I see stuff that's sold online, and that's kind of tough to see. It's very tough to see that. But it's whatever. They have an established set of rules. I'm just here to play. Follow whatever rule it is, just do what I can to follow it. Just do my best to play off of this team, and that's what I did all year."
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
of course they did
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
Go Blue!
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
Villanova and Michigan.
TVs all across America tomorrow night will be tuning in.....to something else
TVs all across America tomorrow night will be tuning in.....to something else
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
It's always nice when you can cover jesus and the easter bunny in one greeting...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
The one where Mary and Joseph hitch a ride to Bethlehem on Santa Claus's sleigh was underrated.
"OMG, this is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I AM FUCKED!"
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Speaking of underrated....please God do not let those insufferable michiganders win tonight. Puh..leeeze dear eight pound six ounce newborn sweet baby Jesus... Michigan, no way hose A. Nyet.
"OMG, this is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I AM FUCKED!"
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I'd actually rather see Michigan win than Villanova. Two NC's in 3 years would only increase their attractiveness to recruits. Michigan is always going to be a football school, if they win they'll get a golf clap and everybody will start focusing on spring football practice. Plus, the MIF went to Michigan, she'll be in a better mood if they win...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
hedge wrote:I'd actually rather see Michigan win than Villanova. Two NC's in 3 years would only increase their attractiveness to recruits. Michigan is always going to be a football school, if they win they'll get a golf clap and everybody will start focusing on spring football practice. Plus, the MIF went to Michigan, she'll be in a better mood if they win...
its just nice not having a rooting interest in one of them losing
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
Go Blue!
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
I'd trade Calipari to Jay Wright in a heartbeat.hedge wrote:I'd actually rather see Michigan win than Villanova. Two NC's in 3 years would only increase their attractiveness to recruits.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
I’m watching the Red Sox game and reading...
I proudly took AFAM 040 at Carolina.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
Translation: Your wife is asleep on the couch and you're jacking off into a sock...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
He's not organized enough to have a sock handy. He'll just dart off to the bathroom with his hand clamped on it, or if he doesn't make it there, the kitchen trash can.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
Somewhere Rollie is smiling.
None of you probably noticed that I have had Villanova as my college hoops affiliation when this forum was started. The affiliation is loose because growing up in PA we were more NBA Sixer fans than college hoops. Pitt and Penn State were independent and could care less about their basketball programs. Later on, Pitt decided to improve, Penn State still does nothing so no long term attachment to any program. The only time college hoops garnered interest in our state was Villanova's run in 1985. After that, back to apathy. Couldn't even get excited about the recent two championships in three years. More interested in the Penguins making it three in a row this year and the Pirates 4-0 start.
None of you probably noticed that I have had Villanova as my college hoops affiliation when this forum was started. The affiliation is loose because growing up in PA we were more NBA Sixer fans than college hoops. Pitt and Penn State were independent and could care less about their basketball programs. Later on, Pitt decided to improve, Penn State still does nothing so no long term attachment to any program. The only time college hoops garnered interest in our state was Villanova's run in 1985. After that, back to apathy. Couldn't even get excited about the recent two championships in three years. More interested in the Penguins making it three in a row this year and the Pirates 4-0 start.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops
"Couldn't even get excited about the recent two championships in three years."
That's encouraging...
That's encouraging...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.