Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[aTm]

To be fair, the treasury really wants to change the $10, but a bunch of morons love Hamilton now that theres a musical about his ass.

[Toemeesleather]

I'm not a fan of Obama, but to be fair, he inherited an economic Chernobyl on his first day in office. That would skew any president's numbers downward.

Did his constant reliance on more, more, more.....gubment regulation/fiats/epa mandates/war on coal do any skewing?

....and didn't the Obammer/tick dynamic duo constantly inform us how great guns everything was???

[bluetick]

I was talking about me. "Everything great guns" for moi.

To be fair toe, I did express concern for your plight and am still convinced that you'll turn the corner one of these days.

[Toemeesleather]

Yes, the rich got richer. Just not kosher to say w/a dem in the WH.

What about the poor? Only concerned about the working folk when Bush is prez?

[bluetick]

It's just that you obummer-haters got out of the market in 2009 and never came back.

With what is going on with China I'm thinking of sitting on the sidelines for a spell my ownself.

[sardis]

I don't see the problem. A person should be able to play in a league corresponding with the age he identifies with.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/world ... to-30.html

[Professor Tiger]

Can a white heterosexual male business owner, who wants to compete for a government contract, simply "identify" himself a black lesbian and automatically qualify to compete for minority preferential set-aside government contracts? I'm sure he'd "feel more comfortable" as a "transracial" as well as "transgender" person if that declaration gives him a significant business advantage.

We must remember, the personal "comfort" and subjective "feelings" about one's gender is self-validating these days. Why not with race and orientation vis a vis government contracts?

[aTm]

Most people (Granted, only a handful, but I don't think all that atypical) I ever knew who had issues like this, kids in middle school, early high school, whatever, are dead. I'm sure they were just doing it all to gain some advantage, feel more comfortable, oblige some superficial feelings, or whatever before they decided to end their lives.

[Professor Tiger]

So are you saying that, if those people you knew had just been encouraged to use a bathroom they identified with, like some want today, they wouldn't have tragically committed suicide?

There's another possible explanation. Maybe those people you knew had profound psychological problems all along, of which the urge to dress up like the opposite sex (and perhaps to use opposite sex bathrooms) was just a symptom. Maybe it was their deeper psychological problems that led to their tragic suicides, not their bathroom limitations.

[Cletus]

Gender is much more nuanced than you realize.

http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

[Professor Tiger]

There are millions of teenagers who sincerely believe they are adults trapped in a teenage body. So can a 16 year old "identify" himself as a 21 year old and buy beer legally?

[aTm]

Gender is much more nuanced than you realize.

http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

Well...more nuanced than that whole "rib" thing...

[aTm]

There are millions of teenagers who sincerely believe they are adults trapped in a teenage body. So can a 16 year old "identify" himself as a 21 year old and buy beer legally?

I'm confused about your position on the whole thing with regard to your reactions and quips. Do you think LGBT have a mental illness? Do you think they just choose to be that way? The devil made them do it?

[hedge]

He's just being a good christian and loving his neighbor...

[bluetick]

This bathroom hysteria had me thinking of other similar nonsense on such a grand scale, and I thought of the red dye no.2 scare of so many years ago. Totally baseless, but even Mars stopped making red M & Ms for a generation. To this day some people still toss out the red M & Ms.

If you're truly worried about somebody looking longingly at your private parts then just use a stall. Flip the latch and you are safe from one and all; gays, lesbians, transgenders, pedophiles (priests or otherwise).. bi or bi-curious.. republican pols.. people doing market research..

[crashcourse]

big issue in Panama when I was stationed there was the number of GI's thinking they were bringing home a girl only to reach under their skirts and find a set of balls

Okinawa has a marine on trial for murder for killing a transvestite when he thought he was getting some pussy

very difficult what to think about a group of people willing to go as far as having sexual activity without notifying potential partners of their underwear surprise

I think you have to draw a line somewhere. There are a lot of young cross dressers out there--with the hormone surges going on during that period of time I doubt they know what they are but--should we let the school kids go into any bathroom they want? any lockers rooms they want?

[aTm]

The bathroom is a place to take a piss, a shit, wash up, look in the mirror for a second. The idea that a public one is some fucking sanctuary is the major cultural problem here not which people are using it.

[Professor Tiger]

There are millions of teenagers who sincerely believe they are adults trapped in a teenage body. So can a 16 year old "identify" himself as a 21 year old and buy beer legally?

I'm confused about your position on the whole thing with regard to your reactions and quips. Do you think LGBT have a mental illness? Do you think they just choose to be that way? The devil made them do it?

Here is my position:

1. What people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms between consenting adults does not concern me as a matter of public policy.
2. Men who like to dress up like women are not heroes or worthy of the exaltation they are currently receiving.
3. Men who like to dress up like women are still men. Their genitalia pretty much proves their gender one way or another. Penis = male. Vagina = female. It's really not all that complicated.
4. When men who like to dress up like women, their "identification" as women does not make them women except in their minds. See the foolproof test in #3 above.
3. Men don't belong in women's bathrooms.

Hope that helps.

[Professor Tiger]

If a 45 year old husband is caught having sex with the 15 year old babysitter, can he say he "identifies" himself as another 15 year old boy, and therefore avoid being charged with statutory rape?

[Professor Tiger]

The bathroom is a place to take a piss, a shit, wash up, look in the mirror for a second. The idea that a public one is some fucking sanctuary is the major cultural problem here not which people are using it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/georg ... 55246.html

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/27/craig.arrest/