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Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:37 pm
by Hacksaw
It's the only smart business decision the Colts can make. I am excited to see where Peyton goes, assuming he ever plays again, of course.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:49 pm
by Hacksaw
I actually heard one of the talking heads on ESPN this morning say that Tom Brady is over-rated. I predict we'll hear more of that sentiment, particularly if his TEAM fails to win the big game this time around.

It will be particularly gratifying to start seeing people come to the light.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:13 pm
by Jungle Rat
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Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:21 pm
by THE_WIZARD_
I just don't get all the controversey here. Peyton is a better regular season QB. Brady is a better playoff QB. Who is better overall? That is a matter of opinion. I happen to think more weight should be placed on the post-season...but that's just me.

Get over it. Get a life dudes.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:22 pm
by Jungle Rat
STFU

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:49 pm
by dave_rickart
THE_WIZARD_ wrote:I just don't get all the controversey here. Peyton is a better regular season QB. Brady is a better playoff QB. Who is better overall? That is a matter of opinion. I happen to think more weight should be placed on the post-season...but that's just me.

Get over it. Get a life dudes.
that's been my point all along. yet for some reason, Hack thinks replying with 'ever more regular season stats' somehow counters that argument

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:53 pm
by dave_rickart
Tampa Bay Bucs negotiating with Rutgers coach Greg Schiano
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tamp ... ano-012612

very surprising....

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:56 pm
by Hacksaw
My problem is that when I ask what makes Brady better than Peyton, people invariably say his 3 SB rings. But that's the answer to a different question. That's the answer to the question, "What proves that New England has been a better team over the past decade than the Colts?" Great TEAMS win SBs. That's why so many TEAMS have won SBs with QBs that nobody would ever argue is among the greatest QBs to ever play the game.

I'm happy to look at the playoff stats of both guys (which, BTW, proves the lie that Brady has been so much better than Peyton in the playoffs). But I think it's wrong to throw out all the other evidence and just look at SB wins.

Peyton has been a one-man team. Brady has been an important piece of a very good overall TEAM. The better TEAM will naturally go further and be more successful in the playoffs, where the competition is better. These are really very simple concepts that most people have no problem understanding.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:59 pm
by bluetick
There's naturally a lot of speculation around here on where Peyton will end up. Lately there's a lot of steam about the possibility of PM being a 49er. Alex Smith's poor showing in the NFCCG coupled with the fact that Smith is at the end of his contract certainly makes it plausible.

I've never been a niner fan or really ever given them much thought before. This whole new-scenerio thing is kinda fun...unexpected, but fun.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:14 pm
by THE_WIZARD_
Me hast thinks Hack doth protests too much.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:16 pm
by BigRedMan
Me thinks Wiz doth fuck tractors too much.......

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:50 pm
by dave_rickart
bluetick wrote:There's naturally a lot of speculation around here on where Peyton will end up. Lately there's a lot of steam about the possibility of PM being a 49er. Alex Smith's poor showing in the NFCCG coupled with the fact that Smith is at the end of his contract certainly makes it plausible.

I've never been a niner fan or really ever given them much thought before. This whole new-scenerio thing is kinda fun...unexpected, but fun.
which, in hindsight, makes the whole weeklong media discussion after the Saints game quite laughable that 'Alex Smith has now proved himself / been vindicated'.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:56 pm
by bluetick
1. SF...

2. DC
3. Miami
4. Seattle (doubtful)
5. TN (doubtful)


If it is D.C., I would like to be first to welcome rickart into the Manning extended family.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:05 pm
by puterbac
Peyton will be cut and then the courtships begin.

I say it will be jets.

If he's smart he will play for a dollar (unless must be league minimum), and leave rest of money for team needs.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:28 pm
by Jungle Rat
Daniel Snyder

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:18 pm
by sardis
Hacksaw wrote:It's the only smart business decision the Colts can make. I am excited to see where Peyton goes, assuming he ever plays again, of course.
How's not signing a player that guarantees you get to the playoffs a good business decision?

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:23 pm
by Jungle Rat
After all, he is a one man team. Hell, he could turn the Rams into Super Bowl contenders next year.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:06 pm
by Hacksaw
sardis wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:It's the only smart business decision the Colts can make. I am excited to see where Peyton goes, assuming he ever plays again, of course.
How's not signing a player that guarantees you get to the playoffs a good business decision?
Did you really just use the word guarantee? Manning has had 3 neck surgeries and there's no guarantee that he will ever play again. That and the fact that the Colts have a chance to draft the biggest can't-miss QB prospect in years means they have no choice. If they had a crystal ball and knew Peyton would be 100% when he came back, then there's no question they would keep him. But there's no such thing as a crystal ball and $28 million is too big a gamble when you've got Luck waiting in the wings.

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:53 pm
by crashcourse

Re: Crashcourse's NASCAR and Manning > Brady Regurgitation

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:13 am
by puterbac
Jungle Rat wrote:After all, he is a one man team. Hell, he could turn the Rams into Super Bowl contenders next year.
I bet you would they would make a huge improvement and be in playoff contention.

I mean really. The only real difference between this year and last year with the colts was manning being gone.

8 game difference without Manning, yet you say it would have been that way if he was healthy and had played?

Riiiiight.