The Goat Pen

Ok, I think most reasonable people would agree with that. I just want to keep it clear that is not what SandF is. I thought the line of discussion was a diversion from the original point.

I guess I need to blame Rat.

I consider myself libertarian and I am totally against the police hassling anyone for any non-reason, and I certainly don't count simply standing around at 2 am (or anytime) as a reason to be hassled by the cops or even questioned. I am on record as saying that I don't even think if they witness a drug deal going down that that is a reason for them to get involved at all, but of course that's not the laws we live under. But given that last sentiment, you can imagine how I feel about stop and frisk. At the same time, I agree with eCat that most cops are by nature power mad assholes, so you shouldn't expect anything but the worst out of most of them...

It's always my fault.

One of the things I liked most about SF is that the cops didn't really hassle anybody too much. Even at the known drug intersection, with a station within 2 blocks, I never saw anybody being hassled, much less arrested. I think they just don't give a shit about drug use at that level in SF...

Me being out late - or early - is not probable cause. Thank God Judge Scheindlin smacked them down.

We should definitely leave it to citizens to police each other, like when somebody leaves their kid in their car within eyesight to take a jog...

The father, I assume, since he was the only guy out on the track is running about a 1/8 of a mile away but mostly out of sight of the car. 

Also, I never advocated that a citizen 'police' - simply report a potential hazard.

So, you are wrong in everything you've written.

F! Take a seat.

The world we live in today, you get asked what you're doing at 2am and you tell the cop its none of his damn bidness, you're gonna get your ass tazed.

Someone will be standing by with a phone video taping it, turn it into Fox News and they'll praise the cop for keeping America safe....


if you're wearing a hoodie

then again, people wearing argyle sweater vests and dockers aren't out at 2am, and if they were, they'd tell the cop what they're doing.

I see plenty of argyle sweater vests and ugly-assed Dockers at all hours in NYC. The cops would never ask them anything...except St Paddy's or Cinco de Mayo night.

Of course DS would comply.

Jungle Rat wrote:It's always my fault.

Well, you did bring up the 2am scenario (as I look back on it).

When they stopped and frisked the blacks,
and I didn't speak out because I am not black,
and really I don't like them anyway, they shouldn't be out at 2 am.

If black people have nothing to hide, they shouldn't mind being stopped and frisked 8 times a day. But everyone has to complain about something these days. Especially blacks. They just seem so....uppity.

Damned Obama, giving these blacks dreams of Promised Lands and shit.

Yeah, next thing they'll want to vote and - god forbid - move into white neighborhoods.

Bklyn wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:It's always my fault.

Well, you did bring up the 2am scenario (as I look back on it).

Im a discussion starter.

Bklyn wrote:I see plenty of argyle sweater vests and ugly-assed Dockers at all hours in NYC. The cops would never ask them anything...except St Paddy's or Cinco de Mayo night.

and there you go

Which state has the ugliest residents?

Apparently ... ALABAMA

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... cmpid=hpfc

the linked article is not representative of your post

You have to run through the slide show.