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Post by innocentbystander » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:16 pm

Obviously if he raped his accuser, he's a shitbag but I don't believe he did. Nothing else he has done is any sort of big deal on the surface (minor shoplifting charge, shooting a BB gun, "stealing" Sprite from Burger King with a ketchup cup) - and the latter two incidents (along with the rape charge) happened before he was the QB at FSU.
If had raped her he would have been arrested, charged, and tried for rape. He would have been jailed last year, not playing vs Clemson on Saturday. No Heisman trophy, no scholarship, and that would pretty much have ended his college football career. Maybe he still has a shot in the NFL (if some franchise thinks he is worth the risk) but its unlikely that any would.

He wasn't arrested. He was never charged. There was no "rape." What there was instead was regret on her part as to what she did (give consent.) That is not in doubt, not in dispute. It is not in doubt because she did talk to the police and the DA. The DA would have gone after Jameis if they actually believed she was truly violated. They didn't. This is one of those instances that the GOP gets themselves in trouble with women voters because they tend to discriminate consent then regret from REAL rape. Women most certainly do not like to hear these things because this level of brutal reality is not an issue the majority of women can talk about objectively without getting emotional.

What might be in doubt, what most certainly is disputable is the cause for that regret. Why is she sorry (NOW) that she fucked Jameis Wisnton? I think what might have happened is a pretty, white, blonde, FSU co-ed freshman, got a phone call from her bigot daddy who just found out from a family member that his lovely, pure, innocent (and in his mind, virginal) daughter, just had her hymen "ruined" by a black boy. And he probably wanted to know what happened and (if she let him do this to her) how disappointed and ashamed he was of her. Why is he spending all that money to send her to school to work on her MRS degree if she is just going to fuck the black boys? The last thing she wanted to feel is "shame" so as to not let her bigot daddy down, just tell him that... she was raped. That way its not her fault. I find this scenario entirely too easy to believe. But that was then and this is now.

Now? The young man is a knucklehead. Forget the crab legs, he doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut. That is his problem. And (for shooting off his mouth) he probably deserves much worse than a 30 minute game "time-out." Lucky for Jameis that FSU is still undefeated, they are playing Clemson this week, and Jimbo Fisher wants to get them into the playoffs at all costs. He has a $4mil dollar a year contract to protect, he is not likely to do so by losing rightously (at home) to a school like Clemson who just graduated their entire offense last year.
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Post by aTm » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:51 pm

Pick a funnier topic for your parody diatribes.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:57 pm

I'll bet IB beats his wife with a switch like Peterson.

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Post by hedge » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:14 am

"I think what might have happened is a pretty, white, blonde, FSU co-ed freshman, got a phone call from her bigot daddy"

LMAO at you calling anybody, even hypothetically, a bigot...
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Post by KeviNole » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:09 am

Sean MAGaguire - The Desolation of SMAG.

Believe it.

Fucking idiot Winston...

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Post by Jungle Rat » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:02 am

Something is up. You don't suspend you star QB for an entire game because he yelled a few bad words.

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Post by hedge » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:13 am

The atmosphere surrounding football these days is fraught with tension...
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Post by Jungle Rat » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:57 pm

If video killed the radio star then social media is killing the NFL.

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Post by hedge » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:59 pm

Wow, it only took you 5 years to come up with that. That's progress...
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Post by Jungle Rat » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:52 pm

Jealousy oozes from you sweat glands. While you've grown old and tired I still keep things moving with my classic posts. Don't be a hater because you are retarded.

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Post by billy bob bocephus » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:46 pm

it was a tense game last night and I didn't think we were going to pull it out until dabo went for the 4th and 1 in OT and got stuffed so congrats to McGuire and the whole Nole squad

I was disappointed to see Jameis on the sideline but him being such a loose cannon it was probably the safest place for him program wise

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Post by innocentbystander » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:22 am

FSU, please stay nice and undefeated right up until November 21st, thank you very much.
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Post by KeviNole » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:57 pm

Why would you want to beat an undefeated FSU? You've bitched and moaned for years about how FSU fucked the ACC over by beating #2 BC several years ago.

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Post by Jungle Rat » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:18 pm

Because he's a fucking moron?

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Post by innocentbystander » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:40 pm

KeviNole wrote:Why would you want to beat an undefeated FSU? You've bitched and moaned for years about how FSU fucked the ACC over by beating #2 BC several years ago.
Oh spare me. You can't possibly be scared of lowly-BC, the team currently ranked dead last in the ACC Atlantic, coming into Tallahasee and taking care of business?

BC is ranked #5 in the nation for rushing yards per game and #18 in the nation defensively against the run. Don't worry KN. I'm sure by November 22nd, someone will have figured out what Steve Sarkissian couldn't.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:43 pm

Like Pitt?
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Post by innocentbystander » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:36 am

AlabamAlum wrote:Like Pitt?
That was a little bit of a different situation for three reasons...
  • Addazio said it was mostly his fault. They had a short week of practice and he opted NOT to practice tackling. They could get away with not tackling well vs ZooMass but not Pitt. In almost half of Pitt's running plays, a BC defender had Conner in the backfield for a loss but they didn't wrap and grab. It should have been 80 yards rushing for Pitt, not 305.
  • The coaches really didn't know what they had yet in the running game. The assumed that they could play balanced (passing vs running) so they tried that vs Pitt. Epic fail. Murphy can't throw and the receivers can't catch. But they can all block like hell on defensive backs...
  • When it was 7-3 BC, the Eagles intercepted a pass on the BC 30 yard line. They tried three passing plays in a row and Murphy was a mile away from his receivers. If they had run the ball even once, they would have been close enough for a field goal and BC goes up at leat 10-3 and it would have been a whole different game.
Basically the difference between Pitt and USC was the coaches not knowing (for sure) what they have in their offensive line. If they had just run the ball on Pitt (instead of trying to mix it up) BC would never have been behind in the game. The coaches should have had more faith. They have 6 graduate student offensive linemen. Not one of them is over 305 pounds. Not one of them is over 6'5". They are "average" sized FBS O-linemen at best (certainly small by BC lineman standards.) But they never get winded, not ever. USC proved that. And because they are so much older than most of the defensive linemen they line up against (by 3 or 4 years in some cases) they are not going to be outsmarted or out-finesed on the line. Just wont happen, they are too veteran. True, they don't overpower bigger defensive tackles. And they suffer in the first quarter. But by the mid-point of the 3rd quarter (when they've run their 40th rushing play), there is probably not a team in college football that BC wouldn't have at least 200+ rushing yards against.

Someone will figure out how to stop them. It wont be this week. CSU is not stopping BC. And I don't give NCSU much of a chance either.
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Post by KeviNole » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:23 am

innocentbystander wrote:BC is ranked #5 in the nation for rushing yards per game and #18 in the nation defensively against the run.
If you've seen our first 3 games, we're not a very good rushing team. Rush defense has been hit and miss - our NG Eddie Goldman really came into his own in the Clemson game and was unblockable, but we've also lost our other starting DT (Nile Lawrence-Stample) for the season. I'm not particularly worried about Tyler Murphy running wild on us like he did against USC because our defense is designed to contain that (and he's not as natural a runner as DeShaun Watson).

Most FSU fans put BC as one of the top 3 concerns for the rest of the season, FWIW. There's a lot of football to be played between now and then, so we'll see how the defense shapes up by then.

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Post by KeviNole » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:49 pm

IB's theory given a bit more credence today:
According to the letter -- obtained by TMZ -- the alleged victim's lawyer, Patricia Carroll, demanded $7 MIL to settle her client's claims against FSU and Winston, telling Cornwell [Winston's attorney], "If we settle, you will never hear from my client or me again -- in the press or anywhere."

Cornwell says he rejected her offer and 4 days later she went to the media.

Cornwell also says Carroll claimed her client's sexual encounter had to be rape, because she would never sleep with a "black boy." Fact is ... the alleged victim's boyfriend at the time was black. The criminal case fell apart, partly because the alleged victim had semen from 2 different men on her shorts.

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Post by Jungle Rat » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:25 pm

I'll admit, I was the other guy.

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