The Goat Pen

they were members of the Church of the Creator, the point being that there are many out there who murder in the name of religion, not just Islam. I could have added James Kopp, Paul Jennings Hill, Scott Roeder, Michael F. Griffin, and Peter James Knight.

you know which one of them were the most fucked up - the ones that use all 3 of their names

heh

The thread of posts, previous, were comparisons of Christian terrorism and Islam terrorism so I apologize if I thought your post was in the same vein.

Church of the Creator believes that Chrisitanity is a Jewish plot to suck in white people to fight for their cause. They resemble more to folks who post on here than Christians...

sardis wrote:The thread of posts, previous, were comparisons of Christian terrorism and Islam terrorism so I apologize if I thought your post was in the same vein.

Church of the Creator believes that Chrisitanity is a Jewish plot to suck in white people to fight for their cause. They resemble more to folks who post on here than Christians...

wow...they have a group for that?

Lol

I think the FBI knew the Elvis impersonator wasn't their man when he said "I don't even eat rice, what are you talking about!"

Saint wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:

Saint wrote:Of course, this comes as no surprise to me. During the mortgage default frenzy a few years ago, I wondered why the banks were so up in arms (other than their cash flow issues) since they were now the owners of millions of homes. Pretty soon, we're all going to be renting from The Man.

you wont be renting from anyone (certainly not "The Man") if you didn't welch on your mortgage.

you'll be renting too once your supervisor comes back by your cubicle and sees you wasting company time again. if you were a real independent type, like a drug lord instead of the corporate flunkie that you are, you would be able to post your drivel with real impunity instead of this conjured bravado you manage to muster when Lumbergh isn't hovering over you

ooohhh, it appears I've "stung" Saint with that comment. might you be one of those 2,000,000 welchers Saint?

How is it welching if you stop paying your mortgage? You lose the house which then goes back to the bank, and they also keep all the money that you had paid them so far. Basically a no-lose proposition for banks with the "welcher" coming out as the only loser in the deal...

that 90% for it loses it luster in post vote polling


According to a new Washington Post-Pew Research Center poll. Yes, a plurality (47 percent) describe themselves as either “angry” or “disappointed” about the failure of the gun legislation, but 39 percent call themselves “relieved” or “happy” about what happened. That’s a far cry from the 90-ish percent support that expanding background checks — the centerpiece of the proposed legislation — enjoyed.

And, among those who said they were “very closely” keeping tabs on the vote, the split was even closer; 48 percent said they were angry/disappointed while 47 percent were relieved or happy. (That piece of data is indicative of the passion gap on the issue between those supporting gun rights and those pushing for more restrictions.)

Owlman wrote:How is NC planning to effect necessary notice (a federal constitutional requirement) when the owner doesn't live at the address where their is an attempted taking?

post on its website.

innocentbystander wrote: ooohhh, it appears I've "stung" Saint with that comment. might you be one of those 2,000,000 welchers Saint?

yeah, I've lost my home but still have a computer and internet access.

Saint wrote:

Owlman wrote:How is NC planning to effect necessary notice (a federal constitutional requirement) when the owner doesn't live at the address where their is an attempted taking?

post on its website.

I doubt seriously if that will satisfy the federal requirement of notice

Saint wrote:

innocentbystander wrote: ooohhh, it appears I've "stung" Saint with that comment. might you be one of those 2,000,000 welchers Saint?

yeah, I've lost my home but still have a computer and internet access.

Hang in there. IB's taxes alone will cover you for the year.

a little food and a woman, that's all you need.

What year did this snorting coke, fucking a guy who stole his daddys yacht lady do this?

hedge wrote:How is it welching if you stop paying your mortgage? You lose the house which then goes back to the bank, and they also keep all the money that you had paid them so far. Basically a no-lose proposition for banks with the "welcher" coming out as the only loser in the deal...

Apparently, you have no idea what a mortgage is. Either that, or you have spent your life gaming the system to your own benefit (to the determent of all others) that you don't know how to stop. Either way, your irrational, prickish, selfish response, leads me to believe that you aren't using that brain of yours that enabled you to attend UNC.

The bank does not want the house. Ever. In fact, Federal banking regulations in these United States strictly prohibit banks from investing in real estate. You did know that right? The only way banks get around these Federal regulations on real estate is when they are a victim of what YOU did to them by dumping property on them. Now I am going to calmly explain to you why you clearly strike out on your whole "no lose proposition for the banks" horseshit.

A mortgage (on the bank's part) is an investment in you. You are taking out a promisary note of which "the house" is your "collateral." That's it. That is all the house is to the bank, collateral. On a PROMISE that YOU made to the bank that you would pay them back.... so there is strike one with your irrational reasoning.

Strike two is far less obvious but still very noteworthy. The bank loaned you the money. You promised to pay the bank back. What the bank did NOT do is invest in your house. And why do I say that? Because if the house goes up 20% in a couple years, and you sell it, pay off your mortgage in full, and pocket a 20% profit, you don't share one penny of that profit with the bank. If you make money, that profit is all YOURS. You share none of it with the bank because the bank is NOT an investor. YOU are the only investor. All the bank did is loan you money for your promisary note. That said, since you aren't going to share ANY of the profit you might make on the house, why is it fair (to you) to think you can just dump the house on the bank when you have lost money on it?

Lastly (and most importantly) over 1,000,000 people who worked in banking/finance (colectively for multiple banks and lending institutions) have lost their jobs because of welchers who seemed to think that the bank couldn't lose. Countrywide went belly-up and their some-odd 100,000 employees (the ones that weren't saved during the merger) lost their jobs because the company was in bankruptcy. They simply could not possibly absorb all those massive write-offs and losses even with the Credit Default Swap insurance policies from AIG, their losses were simply too massive. So welchers (directly) meant the losses of 1,000,000 jobs for ordinary Americans (and people like you wound up blaming President Bush for that.)

Strike three Hedge.

Go fuck yourself you selfish, irresponsible, self-centered, arrogant, egotistical, prick.

He can't be real.

"Lastly (and most importantly) over 1,000,000 people who worked in banking/finance (colectively for multiple banks and lending institutions) have lost their jobs because of welchers who seemed to think that the bank couldn't lose."

No, its because their employers, the banks, are stupid. Whether you think they invested in the people or in the property, these mortgages were stupid investments by the banks. You say the bank doesn't benefit from the 20% increases in real estate is not true. They factor that in their risk assessment and they certainly profited during the early 2000's by being more lax with their risk requirements, betting on the 20% increases. Less restrictions, more loans are able to be given, more money made. Problem is, they did not have the sense to stop and think, Hey, this shit can't last forever. But we should not be surprised, banks have always been reactionary and a step behind. Right now, they and retarded institutional investors, are throwing money at apartment development like drunken sailors. Common sense and industry insiders know that too many are being built, but banks keep lending and another bubble is about to bust.

Print more money.