The Goat Pen

The wheel weaves as the wheel wills.

What if D-O-G really spells Cat?

Why the hell would anyone want eternal life? And, who the fuck cares if there is something else/bigger out there? If it exists, that thing hasn't bothered to show itself to us at any point since humans have been on earth so why do you think it's going to bother with you after you are dead?

why the hell should anyone care about anyone else

fuck everybody else

and fuck mans curiosiity--who cares if anything else is out there

who gives a shit if we explored our world many years ago

why the fuck should we explore the universe too

who gives a shit about anything

we're all gonna die anyway

aTm wrote:At its heart, almost all terrorism is political. Muslims aren't attacking the US because of religion, but because of politics.

you fail

aTm, never-EVER work for intelligence agencies for our government.

Bklyn wrote:I may be insane for trying to educate your primitive, religiously myopic ass. You do have a point there.

Paige (Sikh Temple) was confirmed to have talked about the coming Holy War and was a White Supremacist. McVeigh was a known consort, if not full member, of the "Christian" organization known as the KKK.

You Fail.

I never really understood why people needed religion until maybe 15 years ago. Having a higher power takes responsibility away from them - everything that happens to them is God's will.

eCat wrote:I never really understood why people needed religion until maybe 15 years ago. Having a higher power takes responsibility away from them - everything that happens to them is God's will.

thats fine, but that is not the issue here

what is at issue is that those two boys were motivated to kill specifically because of their religion. and it is not just ANY religion, it is only THAT ONE religion. they had the same motive that the would be Ft Dix terrorists had, the same motive the Food Hood terrorist had, the same motive the DC snipers had, the same motive the shoe bomber had, the same motove the 9-11 hijackers had, all stems from that one religion

they read in their holy book, that infidels had to die. they believe that they had to carry out those attacks, their religion COMMANDS THEM to kill. they are promised 72, pure, tight, unruptured hymens, in their afterlife. that is their "reward" for murdering an eight year old boy...

...that is the religion. that is what we are dealing with here eCat.

The ones dumb enough to believe that are pawns of clergy politics, just like the morons from medieval western europe that invaded the eastern mediteranean in exchange for remission of sins.

aTm wrote:The ones dumb enough to believe that are pawns of clergy politics, just like the morons from medieval western europe that invaded the eastern mediteranean in exchange for remission of sins.

i don't believe in the koran aTm. i am saying that THEY believe in it

your nonsense terms like "clergy politics" and "remission of sins" means nothing since they don't look at sin the way you or i might. and i'm not even sure that you and i look at sin the same way. the fact that those people were having that race AT ALL and men and women were running together (almost completely unclothed save a pair of shorts and a tank top) IS sinful, a sin so unpardonable, that everyone there deserved to die....

...that is what their book commands of them. and if they carry that out, 72 virgins are theirs

their actions were not political. their actions were inspired by a higher authority, allah. anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional and fails utterly

There are simpletons of every stripe.

aTm wrote:There are simpletons of every stripe.

agree again, but you are still missing the issue

the simpletons of the Westboro Baptist Church stripe protest at the funerals of US soldiers because they are pissed off that the federal government got rid of "don't ask don't tell" and that gays may serve openly in the army. so those particular simpletons curse our military....

...but those particular simpletons haven't (nor will they ever) murder anyone, certainly not in the name of Christ....

...thus you have the difference

this is about Islam. you want to call the two bomber's simpletons. go for it. that makes the Ft Dix terrorists, the Ft Hood terrorist, the DC Snipers, shoe bomber, and 9-11 hijackers all simpletons (apparently simpletons who are complicated enough to work together with other simpletons to achieve a common goal.) just don't you dare link all simpletons of every stripe together. that only makes YOU the simpleton

simple enough?

...but those particular simpletons haven't (nor will they ever) murder anyone, certainly not in the name of Christ....

...thus you have the difference

There are muslims who dont murder anybody, do not believe in murdering anybody, and are considered upstanding persons of their faith despite your sick and twisted view that this could not possibly be the case. And, of course, there certainly are Christians who do murder people in the name of Christ.

And, shockingly, in the case of those murdering Christians, their motives are generally wrapped in modern politics rather than any dogma from the book. Usually they needed to rise up against fags, or murder people to try and stop babies from being murdered or something similarly foolish.

One nutcase christian idiot even bombed the olympics. Hmmmm, seems similar to something I heard about recently.

this is about Islam. you want to call the two bomber's simpletons. go for it. that makes the Ft Dix terrorists, the Ft Hood terrorist, the DC Snipers, shoe bomber, and 9-11 hijackers all simpletons (apparently simpletons who are complicated enough to work together with other simpletons to achieve a common goal.) just don't you dare link all simpletons of every stripe together. that only makes YOU the simpleton

simple enough?

I was actually implying that you were a simpleton, btw. Just in case that slipped by.

Al Qaeda train plot foiled

Two men arrested Monday were part of a plot to derail a passenger train, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said. The plot involved "support from al Qaeda elements in Iran," police said. FULL STORY

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/vi ... rupted.cnn

aTm wrote:At its heart, almost all terrorism is political. Muslims aren't attacking the US because of religion, but because of politics. Religion is just a handy excuse when you want to rile up the idiot foot soldiers.

Islam is the total package ... religion, sharia law, politics all rolled up into one ugly package.

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AlabamAlum wrote:Most are fine with that.

Most are fine with greater background checks

I'm fine with background checks. My state already does them. What would the nuts-and-bolts of 'greater' background checks look like?

But fine. Let's do greater background checks (whatever we decide that means). The question to me is this: Would 'greater' background checks have helped in Newtown? Aurora? VaTech?

Okay, okay, most of these things shootings are done by crazies. Nowadays, most of the crazies never get processed through a state psychiatric hospital even if they do see a psych doc. Do we mandate that the psychiatrist enter these patients on a "no-buy" list? What about HIPAA? Doctor-Patient privilege? If I am a borderline paranoid-schizo idiot, will I elect to avoid a MD now?

"These scenes and scenes like them were repeated night after night. The citizenry made address to the governor but he was much like the sorcerer's apprentice who could indeed provoke the imp to do his will but could in no way make him cease again."