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dude, we're gonna get so cunt punted it ain't even funny

aTm wrote:

dude, we're gonna get so cunt punted it ain't even funny

and yet this dude was in a firefight, car chase, etc and still managed to give the cops the slip?

eCat wrote:I hesitate to use the NRA president as a sounding board and I also realize that not having enough votes in the Senate is not the same as defeating a measure, however I do agree with the sentiment of the NRA president when he says this

"The head of the National Rifle Association mocked President Obama's Rose Garden "tantrum" after losing the gun control fight in the Senate, charging Thursday that Obama suffered the worst defeat of his presidency because "he bit off more than he could chew."

David Keene told Secrets that the president and his team misplayed their hand because they don't have a sense of the public's attitude toward gun control. "They just can't gauge the public reaction to what they do because they don't have any sense that the public has feelings different than they do," said Keene.

"He thought and his folks thought that Newtown changed everything. Newtown was a tragedy but that doesn't change people's basic values and feelings," added the NRA president. "What he learned is that he bit off a lot more than he can chew and that you can't just talk your way to a victory. You have to have something that makes some sense and he what he was proposing just didn't make much sense.""

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I've said all along that the gun control advocates could never get a clear message - 1 minute they are talking about prevent the Newtown tragedy and then the next they are attempting to introduce legislation geared toward keeping guns out of the hands of felons. The laws they pushed for didn't address the cause they were supporting, and ultimately I think that was the major stumbling block in their gun control effort. Yes, I admit that the public is for better gun control laws, but where it breaks down is when you start asking them "well if we did this, do you think it would help stop these tragedies and even the victims are hard pressed to say they will".

Of course the daily show has really been on a tear mocking everyone but they won't address the basic concept - are we trying to prevent these mass murder tragedies or prevent felons from owning firearms? There is no talk of mental health evaluations so it can only be these two situations. Since Felons don't commit these mass murder tragedies, the two appear to pretty much be mutually exclusive.

BigRedMan wrote:If you are bat shit crazy and never broken any laws, got into trouble, or been diagnosed with an illness, what good is a background check?

As far as Sandy Hook, the kid that did it used his mother's guns right? So what would have a background check done for this?

I think there has to be something but just throwing money and laws at something doesn't solve it.

Perhaps maybe looking at mental health and spending more money on that would be a good start.

Also maybe gun shows should be heavily regulated meaning unless it is an antique type gun, you can't buy it without going through the proper channels like you would at a gun show.

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Saint wrote:Boston Globe reports one bombing suspect in custody. they're making him do the perp walk naked now in Watertown.

That wasn't one of the two...however, at times like this, it is not time to talk slick to cops. If they tell you to stop and drop, you do it. If not, then you run the risk of being stripped & carted off into a cruiser bare-assed.

eCat wrote:so if you want to assign motive, these kids are pissed because we dragged our feet getting into Bosnia? I don't get it - blow up some fucking Russians, not us.