The Goat Pen

Looking at the standings, if they had won they'd be a game behind two wild card teams in their own division and a game and a half behind Cinci (cinci has a tie which also means their cinci tiebreaker they would have earned would be worthless). Also tied with 3 other potential wild card teams a game back. I guess maybe it's less of a miracle than people made it seem but those are pretty long odds.

Actually this app is wrong, they'd be a game out and only half game behind cinci. I guess they just panicked after Hoyers shitshow last week.

the sports talks shows were saying the locker room lost faith in Hoyer.

They may want him back now

doesnt matter now

they are eliminated

might as well play manzell rest of year

Yesterday, we saw the worst of Manziel from college as well - Manziel at A&M would force plays - but often the talent was such that he could pull it off

Against professionals - the glaring example is a CB running from almost midfield to intercept a pass Manziel thought would be wide open to his receiver, he is going to have to adjust.

If Manziel can figure it out - he will be the most exciting QB in football, but even if he is 50% successful with the forced plays, they'll hate him worse than Bears fans hate Cutler right now.

If he is going to scramble and side arm pass or run for the first down, he better do it at a 75% clip.

As Johnson said on the half time show yesterday - you don't stay in the league making spectacular plays, you stay in the league by not making mistakes, but the fans want Johnny Football - not a pocket passer dumping screens for 8 yard gains

Well, even if he's not a professional caliber QB, he still made millions off marketing himself. So everybody can suck it...

Every pass I saw him throw at A&M had more on it than what he showed yesterday...he threw some that even Peyton Manning would shake his head at...

Dave23 wrote:Every pass I saw him throw at A&M had more on it than what he showed yesterday...he threw some that even Peyton Manning would shake his head at...

maybe, I know I saw him under duress at A&M for some games and he went gunslinger mode immediately. But like I said, it seemed more often than not it worked out for him at A&M

I wonder what the Browns' coach said to him before the game? "Here's ye one chaince, Faincy, don't let me down"....

I'm more interested in what he said to him after the game

Funny Headline in today's sports page:

Johnny Rotten

This just in. Colts win AFC South division. Also, the sky is blue and water is wet.

He'll be making that money sign on the field before the season is over.

BigRedMan wrote:This just in. Colts win AFC South division. Also, the sky is blue and water is wet.

And their owner is a crack head.

1st round hype, 6th round talent. Flew on more than one occasion to weekend in California during training camp and party with Bieber. Thought that learning it all would be easy I guess.

so I'm reading this story about the current value of current and former NFL QB's and they rank the top 25.

There are some that you wouldn't think - Fran Tarkenton is worth a few million, but for the most part its the usual suspects - Drew Brees at $55m, Palmer at $50m, so you get to the final 3 and its Brady at $125m, Manning at $135m and then BOOM Roger Staubach at $600m.

Dude is killing it in real estate.

Another Cincy boy done good.

Not taking anything away from Stauback's business acumen, but I imagine he had an easier time than most getting into the offices of the right people in the Dallas area. Certainly the same could be said of most professional athletes, but a conservative military veteran white boy Super Bowl champion QB is pretty much the perfect storm for business success in Dallas...

hedge wrote:Not taking anything away from Stauback's business acumen, but I imagine he had an easier time than most getting into the offices of the right people in the Dallas area. Certainly the same could be said of most professional athletes, but a conservative military veteran white boy Super Bowl champion QB is pretty much the perfect storm for business success in Dallas...

He practically invented the corporate tenant rep business. I have no doubt that his name and status got him started but once you are dealing with huge corporate clients, that only goes so far. He also timed his sale to JLL very well.

Yep. Respect Roger. Every guy who made a ton of money in that arena had someone get them into the room. Sometimes it's a father, sometimes it's a friend, sometime it's a mentor, sometimes it's a fan.