The Goat Pen

Scary?

That's just what they call the truth around these parts. Would it have not been scary if I had said that the shooter needed a lot of skill to kill the cowering children in a closed-in school?

I had a dream last night that I was getting rich as a straw purchaser for gangs and there was nothing the govt could do about it

I want a rocket launcher.

Owlman wrote:I had a dream last night that I was getting rich as a straw purchaser for gangs and there was nothing the govt could do about it

gangs aren't shooting up school and movie theaters, and if they were it wouldn't be with assault rifles

but straw purchases are illegal - to get a straw purchase the legal buyer must pass the background check and then knowingly give or sell the gun to someone privately immediately after the purchase. You go to jail for that.

My dream wasn't about schools and theaters. And I guess it wasn't therefore about straw purchasers. It was about going into a gun show, buying a large cache of guns and then private sales to gang members and others for a huge profit. The only thing I required in the dream was a driver's license. Of course it was a dream.

And at some point, the state would say I was operating a business and require me to get a privilege license, but only if I was putting more than a few days into this in a year. But since I was not immediately selling it to gangs, then it would seem not to be a straw purchase based on what you are telling me. Good business.

Gang members usually kill other gang members and thugs and their collateral damage is likely to be the dregs of society. Win/win.

Owlman wrote:My dream wasn't about schools and theaters. And I guess it wasn't therefore about straw purchasers. It was about going into a gun show, buying a large cache of guns and then private sales to gang members and others for a huge profit. The only thing I required in the dream was a driver's license. Of course it was a dream.

And at some point, the state would say I was operating a business and require me to get a privilege license, but only if I was putting more than a few days into this in a year. But since I was not immediately selling it to gangs, then it would seem not to be a straw purchase based on what you are telling me. Good business.

oh , you're talking about what Eric Holder did

No.

The VT shooter used .22's. The cheapest, least powerful round available. People like Rat are just ignorant. There should be safeguards, but banning specific types of weapons isn't the problem.

How am I ignorant? Explain to me exactly why you need a Bushmaster, DS. Someone stealing your hootch? You can't defend yourself with a simple glock?

Jungle Rat wrote:How am I ignorant? Explain to me exactly why you need a Bushmaster, DS. Someone stealing your hootch? You can't defend yourself with a simple glock?

so you understand the need for a gun, just not too much gun

I've never differed from that belief. Ever.

so you decide what is the right size of gun for a person

I mean, why not mandate everyone just have a single shot? A six shot revolver is 5 too many.

The whole thing is absurd. A 13 shot Glock is somehow more palatable than a 20 shot assault rifle because an assault rifle is more effective at killing someone? If a revolver was called a brain blower, would it be a more dangerous weapon?

I want a rocket launcher. Or a tank. that'll fuck your littlle pussy Glock up, good like

Reductio ad absurdum

nope, I should be able to own whatever the fuck kind of weapon I want, provided I can obtain it without stealing it. automatic weapons do not keep one safe from an armed military force but a tank might help...

You're in luck, then. Grenade launchers, tanks, and cannons are -believe it or not- generally legal to own in most states. Ditto, machine guns made before 1986.

This ought to lift your spirits...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/opini ... d=all&_r=0

I am not a big fan of David Stockman for many reasons, but his article, and I guess the theme of his new book, makes some great points.

It was all going so well until the common idiotic complaint against moving off the gold standard reared its ugly and overhyped head...

what I've always figured

"There was never a remote threat of a Great Depression 2.0 or of a financial nuclear winter, contrary to the dire warnings of Ben S. Bernanke, the Fed chairman since 2006. The Great Fear — manifested by the stock market plunge when the House voted down the TARP bailout before caving and passing it — was purely another Wall Street concoction. Had President Bush and his Goldman Sachs adviser (a k a Treasury Secretary) Henry M. Paulson Jr. stood firm, the crisis would have burned out on its own and meted out to speculators the losses they so richly deserved. The Main Street banking system was never in serious jeopardy, ATMs were not going dark and the money market industry was not imploding."

Stockman seems qualified to talk about it.