The Goat Pen

Jungle Rat wrote:Al Gore is worth millions. He laughs at you.

More than me, what has he produced of any value? Only in America and you have Algore/Jessie Jackson/Ralph Nader/Michael Moore as gazillionaires.

And Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter and....

hes richer than you sucker!

eCat wrote: its kinds of interesting that the sniper has become glorified in the military over the years. Up and well past WWII the sniper was considered a more cowardice position - shooting the enemy from a distance behind the safety of cover. They were also the most reviled enemy of the infantryman.

Everyone who shoots gets into it, I have a very high end scope made by an off shoot of Tasco of all companies (they are known for junk but they recently won the contract to make high end sniper scopes) and at some point on the gun range we always see who can shoot the closest groupings

but my dad, a WWII vet, would have been ashamed of any of his sons that ever wanted to do that in the military.

Snipers were notoriously volatile in Vietnam. My uncle used to tell me stories about snipers that blew into camp. They lived a solitary life and played by their own rules. He said most guys in his camp were scared of them in Nam...because they didn't care about life at all.

Toemeesleather wrote: More than me, what has he produced of any value? Only in America and you have Algore/Jessie Jackson/Ralph Nader/Michael Moore as gazillionaires.

Al Gore is an ex politician from a wealthy, political family and was once VP. It's easy to see why he's rich...and that resume leading to a rich individual is pretty common in all societies.

Everybody hates on Jessie until their coal mining town is run over roughshod by a corporation or he is asked to negotiate the freedom of Americans held hostage overseas.

Ralph Nader is not quite a gazillionaire but, again, it's not like he hasn't provided specific, quantifiable benefits to people with his consumer advocacy.

You're list is fucked up, basically.

crashcourse wrote:al gore selling his network to aljazeera made 100 million dollars

good for al except aljezeera is owned by mideast oil country qatar

guess old al's definition of going green involves mostly c-notes

Current TV sucks goat balls. Selling it to the Kingdom of Qatar can be looked at as an attempt to bankrupt the small little country. Don't underestimate the brilliance of that tactic. Mike D'Antoni and Steve Nash are employing a similar method now with the LA Lakers with outstanding results.

eCat wrote:If the American farmer buys a dodge its because its all he can afford.

Dodges are as expensive as Chevrolets and Fords now. A 3/4 ton (2500), mega cab, laramie big horn (high end trim option), 4x4, Cummings diesel "Ram" (the brand name for Dodge trucks now) is about the same price as a Chevrolet 2500, crew cab, Duramax diesel, 4x4 LTZ (high end trim option). Both will run you between 62 and 65 for msrp.

Bklyn wrote:

eCat wrote: its kinds of interesting that the sniper has become glorified in the military over the years. Up and well past WWII the sniper was considered a more cowardice position - shooting the enemy from a distance behind the safety of cover. They were also the most reviled enemy of the infantryman.

Everyone who shoots gets into it, I have a very high end scope made by an off shoot of Tasco of all companies (they are known for junk but they recently won the contract to make high end sniper scopes) and at some point on the gun range we always see who can shoot the closest groupings

but my dad, a WWII vet, would have been ashamed of any of his sons that ever wanted to do that in the military.

Snipers were notoriously volatile in Vietnam. My uncle used to tell me stories about snipers that blew into camp. They lived a solitary life and played by their own rules. He said most guys in his camp were scared of them in Nam...because they didn't care about life at all.

See. Id be a good one.

You're list is fucked up, basically.


As is your grammar.


Anywho, Gore/Moore/Jackson et al are MSM enabled $$$$, while Limbaugh/Coulter et al are MSM shunned but still $$$$$.

Oooooh, a pedant is in the house! My point has been invalidated. Well done.

I know, I know....it's your good intention that counts.

today is tax day for me. I'll be pissed off for the remainder of the week

Do it on Friday then.

for those that think its absurd to arm yourself against your government

"A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.

The 16-page memo, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News, provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration’s most secretive and controversial polices: its dramatically increased use of drone strikes against al-Qaida suspects abroad, including those aimed at American citizens, such as the September 2011 strike in Yemen that killed alleged al-Qaida operatives Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan. Both were U.S. citizens who had never been indicted by the U.S. government nor charged with any crimes.

The secrecy surrounding such strikes is fast emerging as a central issue in this week’s hearing of White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, a key architect of the drone campaign, to be CIA director. Brennan was the first administration official to publicly acknowledge drone strikes in a speech last year, calling them “consistent with the inherent right of self-defense.” In a separate talk at the Northwestern University Law School in March, Attorney General Eric Holder specifically endorsed the constitutionality of targeted killings of Americans, saying they could be justified if government officials determine the target poses “an imminent threat of violent attack.”

But the confidential Justice Department “white paper” introduces a more expansive definition of self-defense or imminent attack than described by Brennan or Holder in their public speeches. It refers, for example, to what it calls a “broader concept of imminence” than actual intelligence about any ongoing plot against the U.S. homeland. "

Today its the easy to sell Al-Qaeda, then its an associated force, and associated force then becomes anyone like a militia group in Idaho or a Nation of Islam group in Chicago. Our government leaders who think this is OK and reasonable need to be locked up. They are the threat to American citizens

Yep, we allow our freedoms to be eroded under the guise of safety from terrorism...when really the mere presence of the words "freedom" and "erode", in tandem, should be something we never willingly accept.

It's like what Ben Franklin said about those who give up liberty for a little safety...

If they have "al-" in their name, it's OK to kill them...

seriously, as absurd as it sounds, this is the perfect example of why we need the second amendment.

The government has just stated that if you are deemed a threat, you don't have to get your day in court, they can kill you - remotely with a drone, not on a battlefield, not in the act

If your government is bypassing your right to due process and justice with lethal force, then what alternative do you have than to arm yourself with the most powerful and effective weapon you can get?

Just don't be an Alqaida operative or smoke weed and you'll be fine...

I guess we'll have to outlaw tug-of-wars...

http://ktla.com/2013/02/05/students-sev ... z2K2Bqzgp4

That's not the first time that has happened.