The Goat Pen

well the court system did its deal then the nfl punished him with a 2 game suspension for domestic assualt

the tape verified it was a domestic assualt

they then decide first offense would be 6 games

at the most thats all he should have gotten and even then seems like he could sue the nfl for double jeopardy

as far as I know that was his first offense

I doubt the NFL is bound by any injunctions against double jeopardy, at least not in the same binding way as the legal system is...

He'll play again next year. But the NFL has to tighten up the domestic violence policy and spell out the steps he or anyone else needs to take to get back. Josh Gordon should be pissed. He just smoked weed.

Yeah, the NFL is a private entity. They can 'fire' you as long as a contract doesn't forbid it. Even then, they can still usually get you out the door, they just have to pay more to do so.

I can't wait for one of the women folks to file charges, NFL reacts by suspension for that player whose team makes the Super Bowl and that player has to miss it and THEN during the legal process he is found not guilty or case is dismissed due to whatever.

What do you think the player and the Union will have to say about that?

Nothing.

Also, the first tape was worst than the second.

So the main thrust of this wife beating story is outrage at Roger Goodell? LMAO, keep fighting the good fight against women hating sports commissioners! Suspending him for only 2 games is the worst crime against woman since what's his face bashed that chick in the elevator!

Probably most of us here would be fired under the same circumstances. Of course if most of us here bashed our girlfriend in an elevator, not many people would know about it.

I doubt they would fire you if you bashed your wife. A good dishwasher at Ruby Tuesday's is hard to come by...

In discussing the controversy regarding Ravens running back Ray Rice, Rice's wife, Janay, bore some of the responsibility for not speaking up after she was knocked unconscious by her then-fiancee.

"That, to me, is the saddest part of it,"

that quote by the sanfrancsico playby play guy earned him a suspension for 2 games.

I'm sure by the time the press gets a hold of it nationally he will be suspended for life and let go by sanfranciso

now they are going after the commissioner and a special prosecuter has been appointed from washington DC

I think a new cable channel dedicated to rayrice and the elevator coverup is being launched

It's already been created. It's called ESPN.

since when is the NFL responsible for enforcing criminal and/or civil law?

we've gone off the rails with government involvement in our lives.

I'm more disappointed that they made a decision and then caved on it - kind of a double jeopardy thing there for Rice - and my statements have nothing to do with whether the punishment was just or right in regards to hitting a woman.

plus I drafted him thinking I would get him as a stud RB in game 3 so F. U. Godell.

LMAO...

yeah i got him too

We all need to stop conflating rights endowed to us as citizens from our government and what the employment rights are for individuals aligned with a closely-held private organization. The NFL can do just about anything it wants with its employees, as long as it is within the entity bylaws or the CBA.

If he had punched some much smaller guy (who would have no chance whatsoever against him physically), I doubt anybody would even care. There certainly wouldn't have been any sort of backlash for a "mere" 2 game suspension. It seems like the whole issue about hitting women is that it's wrong b/c they are essentially defenseless against a man (in the vast majority of cases - except that youtube video of the black woman beating the shit out of the crackhead in the street). But with a guy like Rice, if it had been some 160 lb. dude who had sassed him, that dude is essentially just as defenseless as a woman, yet nobody would really give a shit. They might call him a bully, but that's about it. I'm not saying it's OK to hit women, I'm saying I don't see a huge difference b/w that and a 240 lb. NFL player hitting a 160 lb. man...

We already knew he knocked her out cold in the elevator, we all saw him dragging her deadweight ass out. What did people think happened in there? she fell? But now that we've seen the video, its time to go grab out pitchforks and burn down Roger Goodell's house.

Yep. As I said, the first video was worse than the second. The second video was most disturbing by the fact that after she went out like a light he just dragged her around like a rag doll (and that was what was in the first video).

We, as a people, love our opportunities to express righteous indignation to escalating levels. Over the next three days, many of those same people making the most noise (men AND women) will be spitting in the face, choking, arm grabbing, slapping or pushing their significant other in the midst of some squirmish.

Some of them may even be doing it consensually...which is a different story.

The NFL probably didn't need the commissioner to become judge, jury and executioner of football but that's what Goodell did starting with Odell Thurman right after taking over for Tags. Now he's in a shitstorm because people don't like the job he does, when before him nobody ever got suspended for anything except maybe once every decade or something.

This situation would have handled itself with the Ravens cutting Rice no matter what the commissioners office did.

True.

Owners love him, though. Goodell does have that going for him. He has no other support in the L. Players absolutely despise him. I think if anything is giving the players any joy right now is that Goodell is going through it, too. Ray will most likely play football again, but I don't think Roger lasts through year-end.