The Goat Pen

sardis wrote:I can't explain the difference because I don't believe there was much of one.

video

Owlman wrote:

ecat wrote:so are you saying they have a legitimate fear? Are there a lot of shootouts over people running stops signs?

It's not the many, it's the fear. They talk about it all the time.

Its probably not many police that shoot innocent citizens, but its the fear. Citizens talk about it all the time.

eCat wrote:

Owlman wrote:

so are you saying they have a legitimate fear? Are there a lot of shootouts over people running stops signs?

It's not the many, it's the fear. They talk about it all the time.

Its probably not many police that shoot innocent citizens, but its the fear. They talk about it all the time.[/quote]

So the response is to shoot the policeman because of the fear. They come to you house, open fire? Keep your automatic weapon to shoot the police because of the fear? You sure that's what you want to advocate eCat? I need any and all weapons to open fire against my govt because of the fear that they may shoot an innocent in the performance of their duties that we the people have assigned them?

http://news.yahoo.com/teenager-reported ... 10219.html

Teenager Reportedly Used AR-15 to Kill Five in New Mexico

Only the title says he used the AR-15. The article only says it was in the house.

Owlman wrote:

sardis wrote:I can't explain the difference because I don't believe there was much of one.

video

I am not sure whether something being videoed or not is an explanation of whether an injustice was done or not. video is one method of gathering evidence. There are others. Based on the evidence compiled in either case, what is the difference between Rodney King and Randy Weaver.

Video is what galvanized the public and led the Attorney General to act. Public opinion led to dropping the charges against Rodney King and because it was the state, it allowed the feds to charge under the "1983 violation" which was passed under the 14th Amendment which applies to the state govt. 1983 actions do not apply to the federal govt and so cannot be used.

The guy that I was talking to is in our usual Sunday football group. He grows weed on his farm & collects old bottles he finds at flea markets.

INAUGURATION: Only one other time in history have you had 3 Presidents in a row to win a 2nd term, Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe

sardis wrote:Maybe Owlman would like to explain the difference between Rodney King and Randy Weaver...

King was black?

Jungle Rat wrote:

sardis wrote:Maybe Owlman would like to explain the difference between Rodney King and Randy Weaver...

King was black?

Yes, that is pretty much what Owlman is saying is the difference.

To easy. Next question?

"Randy Weaver is a rallying cry for many people afraid of governments reach"

I get so tired of people walking the streets crying "Randy Weaver! RAN-DEEEHHHH WEEEEEEEEEEE-VEEERRR!!"

No one cries when paranoid psycho nutcase who moves his fambly to the Idaho panhandle dies... (Kinda lose the rhyme with that one)...

Wait. James Taylor is still alive?

If you need a friend he is...

sardis wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:

sardis wrote:Maybe Owlman would like to explain the difference between Rodney King and Randy Weaver...

King was black?

Yes, that is pretty much what Owlman is saying is the difference.

There is no where that I said that. What I said was video. Regardless of race, I think the video of the beating would have made a difference with public opinion (although if he were white, there is a good possibility the police wouldn't have gotten off in the initial charge, as with Randy Weaver).

Actually, you did indirectly bring up a difference that I didn't think about. Rodney King's assailants were eventually convicted whereas Randy Weaver's were not.

In fact, Rodney King's assailants were, at first, acquitted. Then the public rose up against tyranny with various weapons and violence against the system and eventually the perpetrators were convicted and sent to jail.

So, the question to Owlman is, when was justice served? Initially, when the court acquitted the policemen or on the second trial where the officers were convicted after the violent uprising of the masses?

They were acquitted of battery. They were convicted of depriving him of his civil rights (I remind you that this is only available as a law against state actors).

Yeah. A brick to the head of that Denny fella was just the way we hope Americans rise up.

Sardis sounds as if he was cheering them on