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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by eCat » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:26 am

hedge wrote:"Carolina has never believed its OK for their athletes to be stupid, well , I mean, you've believed it, you just attempted to lord some moral superiority over everyone else by saying you had real student athletes."

Well, UK student athletes are stupider than UNC student athletes...

the difference is we've never said otherwise.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by crotch » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:31 am

No doubt the ones in charge of banner hanging at the DD will go scrounging around the janitorial closets trying to find some sort of banner to hang in the rafters to replace the 2 vacated ones that will be taken down.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:54 am

"Regardless of whether UNC gets punished by the NCAA, this is a decade of documented academic fraud, the cardinal sin of student athletics. Point shaving, overlooking criminal behavior, even physical violence doesn't surpass this offense inside the domain of college athletics."

Seriously? Point shaving and criminal behavior is more acceptable than football players taking easy courses?
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:56 am

"the difference is we've never said otherwise."

So you're saying that Carolina's hypocrisy makes the crime worse? I guess by that standard a otherwise upstanding citizen who murders his wife and kids is "worse" than some gang thug who kills somebody because, hey, the thug never claimed to be a good citizen in the first place. Probably should just overlook any crime the thug commits because, again, it's pretty much expected. Right?
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by eCat » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:10 am

hedge wrote:"the difference is we've never said otherwise."

So you're saying that Carolina's hypocrisy makes the crime worse? I guess by that standard a otherwise upstanding citizen who murders his wife and kids is "worse" than some gang thug who kills somebody because, hey, the thug never claimed to be a good citizen in the first place. Probably should just overlook any crime the thug commits because, again, it's pretty much expected. Right?
no it doesn't make the crime worse, just more fun for everyone but Carolina fans
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:59 am

So now you're saying there really isn't any difference...
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by eCat » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:35 am

hedge wrote:So now you're saying there really isn't any difference...

the difference I was pointing out is the difference in our programs.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:08 pm

Damn, Piggitha...
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by crotch » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:06 pm

More on the North Carolina cheating scandal.......

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... estigation

Whatever the veracity of the AFAM courses that helped retain his eligibility, however, it is painfully obvious he was in no position to be competing in two sports at once while at UNC. According to the uncovered transcript with Peppers’ name on it, he received Ds or Fs in 11 of the 27 courses for which he earned a letter grade.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by Jungle Rat » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:47 pm

This is turning into a fun retard fight.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

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Jungle Rat wrote:Image
That pic is so awesome when you imagine there're balls in their hands...
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:42 am

Heh

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:29 am

Cowherd weighs in on the "scandal". Good stuff...

http://espn.go.com/blog/north-carolina- ... am-scandal
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by crotch » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:40 am

Calipari coming to West Liberty tomorrow for the live KSR show to raise money for the tornado relief fund. Think I'll mozie over and check him out if I get a chance.... :D

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Post by hedge » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:50 pm

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U*NC is the cleanest most honest athletic program on the planet. I am jealous of their deserved success, and I'm a mewling cunt.

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Post by hedge » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:57 am

Mine is better...
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by DooKSucks » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:34 am

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by Art Chansky's Sports Notebook , posted Aug 16 2012 11:54AM
Gregg Doyel first got my attention when he was a punk sports writer for the Charlotte Observer, obviously trying to make a name for himself.

At the time, he wrote a story claiming the problems surrounding UNC’s basketball program in the early 2000s were all Dean Smith’s fault. Smith had been retired for five years but Doyel insisted Smith was still behind the scenes pulling the strings like some puppeteer.

As with numerous columns he has written since as the loosest cannon at CBSSports.com, Doyel was dead wrong. In fact, Smith had just about wiped his hands of his former program after Chancellor James Moeser foolishly vetoed the hiring of Larry Brown in 2000.

Carolina’s brief basketball swoon was on Matt Doherty, the coach Moeser did approve, who of course lasted three years before getting fired, which allowed Roy Williams a second chance to come back and return the Tar Heels to national prominence.

When the UNC football scandal broke in the summer of 2010, Doyel jumped in with both feet, calling Butch Davis something like the “turd in the punch bowl.” His opinion that Davis had to go, if not his characterization, turned out to be true after UNC decided its reputation was more important than keeping Davis. As you know, I agreed with that move.

Doyel (who went to Florida) says he is hesitant to talk trash about Carolina because his sister went here and lives near here. And he likes Roy Williams, one of the few coaches left who gives Doyel the time of day. Yet, after admitting that he only got interested in the academic side of the case upon seeing the alleged Julius Peppers transcript, Doyel did what he often does – take the easy way out with lazy, inflammatory journalism.

Even for his standards, Doyel’s latest tirade is pretty unconscionable and fits what he was hired to do during the Wild West days of the Internet – just throw stuff out there and see if it sticks. He took the Peppers transcript story, jumped to a mile-wide conclusion and predicted both Carolina football and basketball are “going down.” Doyel backs up little of what he says, using the News & Observer reports to form his own absurd opinions.

Who at CBS Sports allows such irresponsible writing?

Doyel then went on a Charlotte radio show Wednesday morning and said he thinks the only two schools in the country offering African Studies majors are Kansas and Carolina and the common thread is Williams. Ah, wrong again, Greggie. The number is 93, including Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Harvard and Yale, Cal-Berkeley, Michigan and Virginia

I’ve seen the supposed Peppers transcript. If it is indeed his, all it shows is that Peppers did poorly during his (red-shirt) freshman year (1998-99), which is hardly unique for under-qualified athletes. Obviously, he had to get his grades up in summer school to play in 1999, but there is no evidence that Peppers did it by cheating or being given grades in any course.

Other than that, a copy of Peppers’ transcript at one moment in time means nothing, for these reasons:

So what that Peppers was an AFAM major or took AFAM courses – what does that prove?
Afro-African American Studies has been taught at UNC for more than 15 years, with no improprieties uncovered before 2007.
Athletes have been taking the same courses at UNC (and other schools) forever. In fact, most students look for easier or "crip" courses and sign up for them with their friends. Didn’t you?

Despite what else comes out from a period when Carolina earned an NCAA probation, vacated 16 victories, lost 15 scholarships plus a bowl game and changed football coaches twice, most of the athletes who haven’t been implicated do the work, finish the class and get a grade. There is nothing to suggest otherwise.

If you don’t like the fact that some of them are admitted as academic exceptions, are steered toward easier courses and need help from tutors and sympathetic professors, blame the escalation of big-time college athletics into a money-driven enterprise. It is not exclusive to Carolina, not by a long shot.

Reluctant to respond, hiding behind privacy laws, or whatever, UNC needs to stand up and set the record straight about what Tar Heel athletes are supposed to be doing, and what most of them do. Or this is going to spin out of control to the point where more dirt bags like Doyel can claim on national websites that this is "maybe the ugliest academic scandal in NCAA history."

Puh-lease. Worse than the Minnesota and Georgia basketball scandals and the Florida State football final exam scandal?

It’s the job of media like the News & Observer to investigate such stories, publish the facts they find and ask further questions. It’s not Gregg Doyel’s job to defame an entire athletic department over a few guilty parties for a nebulous period of time without any substantiation whatsoever.

“UNC football -- and probably basketball -- is going down,” Doyel wrote in his column. “For starters, there are some banners at the Smith Center that need to come down.”

Don’t think so. In fact, if his editors at CBSSports.com ever wise up, Doyel is the one who needs to go down for writing such drivel.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by AugustWest » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:55 am

Puh-lease. Worse than the Minnesota and Georgia basketball scandals and the Florida State football final exam scandal?

why yes, yes it is. UNC has almost as many fraudulent classes as FSU had students taking a fraud class (and by the way, FSU's fraud class had regular students in it so why was it an issue for FSU but not UNC?) UGa got hammered because it's bball team got to take a joke exam. UNC's athlete get to take joke classes with no exam, and if they needed a little bit better grade the athletic department would just forge a signature and change it to whatever the athlete needed to keep the athlete eligible.
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