The Goat Pen

innocentbystander wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:Since when did weed become addictive?

I never thought it was until I had some personal experience with this. When I had the Rules Girls over the house, quite a few of them said that they would NOT be able to go on vacation (even for a couple of days) if it meant being away from their weed. When they finally promised that they wouldn't bring it, they lied to me. They had no respect for me and brought it anyway. When I busted them smoking weed in my backyard and put them on the spot about it (about lying to me) they said that they couldn't help it, that they couldn't leave it at home because they were addicted. That it was simply impossible for them to be away from their weed for a 48 hour period.

Jesus H. Christ

DooKSucks wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:Since when did weed become addictive?

I never thought it was until I had some personal experience with this. When I had the Rules Girls over the house, quite a few of them said that they would NOT be able to go on vacation (even for a couple of days) if it meant being away from their weed. When they finally promised that they wouldn't bring it, they lied to me. They had no respect for me and brought it anyway. When I busted them smoking weed in my backyard and put them on the spot about it (about lying to me) they said that they couldn't help it, that they couldn't leave it at home because they were addicted. That it was simply impossible for them to be away from their weed for a 48 hour period.

Jesus H. Christ

DS,

I'm sorry that I kept "company" with people who were like that, who had that kind of weakness. I didn't know it was that bad. And I accepted their "answer" (for lack of a better term) as the truth as to why they would mislead me. What else could I do?

Was smoking weed one of the rules?

They brought the weed anyway because that's the only way people can though spending time with you.

I dont know if its more addictive but most people believe it is much more potent then that good hawian I used to get.

one of these days I'll have to break into my kids stash and find out

There is no doubt that THC levels are much higher now than they were in the 1970's.

aTm wrote:Was smoking weed one of the rules?

No.

The Rules
1.Be a “Creature Unlike Any Other"
2.Don't Talk to a Man First (and Don't Ask Him to Dance)
3.Don't Stare at Men or Talk Too Much
4.Don't Meet Him Halfway or Go Dutch on a Date
5.Don't Call Him and Rarely Return His Calls
6.Always End Phone Calls First
7.Don't Accept a Saturday Night Date after Wednesday
8.Fill Up Your Time before the Date
9.How to Act on Dates 1, 2, and 3
10.How to Act on Dates 4 through Commitment Time
11.Always End the Date First
12.Stop Dating Him if He Doesn't Buy You a Romantic Gift for Your Birthday or Valentine's Day
13.Don’t See Him More than Once or Twice a Week
14.No More than Casual Kissing on the First Date
15.Don't Rush into Sex and Other Rules for Intimacy
16.Don't Tell Him What to Do
17.Let Him Take the Lead
18.Don't Expect a Man to Change or Try to Change Him
19.Don’t Open Up Too Fast
20.Be Honest but Mysterious
21.Accentuate the Positive and Other Rules for Personal Ads
22.Don’t Live with a Man (or Leave Your Things in His Apartment)
23.Don't Date a Married Man
24.Slowly Involve Him in Your Family and Other Rules for Women with Children
25.Practice, Practice, Practice! (or, Getting Good at The Rules)
26.Even if You're Engaged or Married, You Still Need The Rules
27.Do The Rules, Even when Your Friends and Parents Think It's Nuts
28.Be Smart and Other Rules for Dating in High School
29.Take Care of Yourself and Other Rules for Dating in College
30.Next! and Other Rules for Dealing with Rejection
31.Don't Discuss The Rules with Your Therapist
32.Don't Break The Rules
33.Do The Rules and You’ll Live Happily Ever After!
34.Love Only Those Who Love You
35.Be Easy to Live With

OK, so now it takes one toke instead of three. And Glenlivet is 8 times more potent than most beers. What's the point? That Glenlivet is 8 times more addictive than Budweiser (or 8 times worse for you, or 8 times more (fill in the blank with something "negative"))?

"I didn't know it was that bad. And I accepted their "answer" (for lack of a better term) as the truth as to why they would mislead me. What else could I do?"

You could've done grave harm to yourself...

The only rule on that list that is worth a shit is #18...

Speaking of Glenlivet, I bought some "cask strength" Glenlivet the other week, I think it's like 105 proof. Hate to say, it's not very good...

I've been in 4 different rehabs. 2 inpatient, 2 outpatient. I have come across all sorts of addicts from booze, coke, crack, heroin, paint, diluated, pills etc. Never, ever have I met anyone via AA or NA or rehab that was there for weed. And I've seen many people die from overdose to detox. Never heard of detox for weed.

Hedge,

I was not making a point, just affirming crash's comment. I thought the improved potency was a plus. As you may remember, I tried to get you to send me a joint (or whatever) a couple of years back because my curiosity was piqued, but -alas- you were too chicken. I have not smoked pot since a Donna Summer concert in 1978, but am interested in trying it again.

And glenlivet is okay, but you need to stick to the valley of the deer.

18, 23

35

36. STFU

why do I get the feeling IB didn't copy & paste that list?

"Hedge,

I was not making a point, just affirming crash's comment."

I realize you don't find the higher potency of weed objectionable, but that is the type of comment that is often thrown out as an "objection" (or whatever you want to call it) when it comes to discussing the current potency of weed vs. 20 (or 40 or 60) years ago...

I vaguely recall the request for a joint. Sorry I didn't follow thru. I can send you a small bud of some weed I bought in Hawaii about a year ago. I've only smoked it twice since then. I just don't smoke much these days...

Hedge,

Understood. The most salient point -and I have trouble even typing this- came from Rat. You do not hear of pot heads in rehab or at NA meetings or whatever.

Alcohol is a far, far worse issue in America. Despite that, I sometimes hear people call booze "healthy" because of some AHA studies from two decades ago - ignoring the fact of the deleterious effects on the kidneys and liver and the belief that plain old grape juice may have as many benefits. The 'booze is healthy' crowd remind me a bit of the 'pot is healthy' crowd; but there can be no doubt, the booze crowd has a better marketing department.

The libertarian in me wants pot legal even though the last time I took a toke, Carter was in office.

What happens in Colorado and Washington state will be interesting to follow.