The Goat Pen

More bad news for Obammer....


Feds are telling Florida to quit purging its voter lists, insisting the process is kicking off many legitimate voters, but Florida won't stop, reports the Guardian. State officials say the purging, which so far has removed 2,600 names, is necessary to ensure that non-citizens aren't voting.

Can dead people still vote?

Hack/Puter...debating with Rat is like talking to a two year old in a candy store. Good luck with that.

He'll figure that out sooner or later. I just don't care enough about politics. It bores me.

BTW Hack,

Oprama has submitted budgets. They have been voted down by Senate a gazillion to nothing each time with not even a single Dem voting for it.

Good stuff. Good stuff.

GBJs wrote:You don't consider "tax the piss out of whoever is working to pay for this shit" a re-distribution of wealth? Don't get me wrong, I believe insurance companies hold a large blame for our country's health care "crisis". But Obomneycare ain't the answer.

The "redistribution of wealth" to the top is what the Republicans have been successfully doing sing the Reagan years.

Obama reauthorized the Bush tax giveaways that significantly contributed to our economic disaster.

Yes insurance companies have alot of blame, and Robamacare does suck.

GBJs wrote:Either the US legal residence citizenry gets what congress and the president has, or congress and the president get what they try to push off on all of their "constituents." It's not feasible for every legal US resident to get what congress gets for health insurance, therefore they do not deserve it.

Excellent point, we agree on this.

Poor ed...

U guys should revere W. The fing tax code got MORE progressive after his tax cuts net less.

The bottom 50% pay less and the top 50% pay more and the top 1, and 2, and 5, and 10 pay more than they did as a share of all taxes.

puterbac wrote:So in short I asked Rat if he had all the power what would he put in place to right the ship so to speak.

His answer....basically Clancy in debt of honor where a 747 hits the capitol building during state of the union speech.

And oped chimes in with campaign finance reform. Both in response to WWYD if you had all the power.

Way to reach for the stars, think outside the box and providing some specifics.

Puter; how much more basic and clear can you get than to take the corporate and union money out of elections?

What would you do?

Term limits would be the worst possible solution.

I know you all are disappointed...

Neal Boortz gives his six-month notice

10:30 am June 4, 2012, by jgalloway

After 42 years of poking, scorching and otherwise entertaining the eardrums of metro Atlanta, Neal Boortz is fixin’ to get ready to retire.

The longtime conservative voice of 750AM and 95.5 FM News/Talk WSB on Monday put listeners on notice: A talk show career that stretches back to the days of President Richard Nixon and Gov. Jimmy Carter will end at precisely 1 p.m. Monday, Jan. 21, with either a loud celebration, or a final rant of King Lear proportions.

That’s Inauguration Day, you see.


Neal Boortz, shown here in 2005, is now preparing to give up the microphone. AJC file

“If it’s Barack Obama, then I’m going to disappear into the mountains and come out after he has destroyed this country. If it’s Mitt Romney, we’ll start drinking as the show begins,” Boortz told listeners.

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider- ... th-notice/

Op Ed wrote:

puterbac wrote:So in short I asked Rat if he had all the power what would he put in place to right the ship so to speak.

His answer....basically Clancy in debt of honor where a 747 hits the capitol building during state of the union speech.

And oped chimes in with campaign finance reform. Both in response to WWYD if you had all the power.

Way to reach for the stars, think outside the box and providing some specifics.

Puter; how much more basic and clear can you get than to take the corporate and union money out of elections?

What would you do?

Term limits would be the worst possible solution.

If you could get corp AND union money out of the equation and it was just individual donors with the 2k or whatever the limit is, maybe.

Would PAC's be around in your scenario?

I am a bit leery because money is speech.

And as we continue to become a country of 50%+ who pays no fed income taxes and who collects payments from the feds we will have fewer and fewer people who have skin in the game and who will give a shit about taxes, debt, etc. We become more like Greece. Right now money you hate is an equalizer of sorts to the money that the Feds dole out in search of votes.

puterbac wrote:I know you all are disappointed...

Neal Boortz gives his six-month notice

10:30 am June 4, 2012, by jgalloway

After 42 years of poking, scorching and otherwise entertaining the eardrums of metro Atlanta, Neal Boortz is fixin’ to get ready to retire.

The longtime conservative voice of 750AM and 95.5 FM News/Talk WSB on Monday put listeners on notice: A talk show career that stretches back to the days of President Richard Nixon and Gov. Jimmy Carter will end at precisely 1 p.m. Monday, Jan. 21, with either a loud celebration, or a final rant of King Lear proportions.

That’s Inauguration Day, you see.


Neal Boortz, shown here in 2005, is now preparing to give up the microphone. AJC file

“If it’s Barack Obama, then I’m going to disappear into the mountains and come out after he has destroyed this country. If it’s Mitt Romney, we’ll start drinking as the show begins,” Boortz told listeners.

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider- ... th-notice/

Boortz has been boooooring for years now, the least entertaining of the bunch, much too in love w/himself.

I see Ed hasn't found his brain yet...

bluetick wrote:Through the years Obama has personally certified on at least a hundred documents that he was born in the U.S. He states in his 1995 autobiography that he was born in Hawaii in 1961. The state of Hawaii confirmed that fact in an extraordinary release of his birth certificate 14 months ago (to quell the 'carnival barkers' such as Trump, as oprama put it).

If anybody here knows of a further course of action the prez can take to molify you and your fellow birthers, then let's hear it.

It's official...'tick has a serious reading comprehension problem.

And thank God Rat disagrees with me about politics. I find his disagreement to be very encouraging. Just as I'm sure 'tick (and, by extension, Dear Leader, himself) see Rat as the wind beneath their wings.

Only one of us will be happy come November and it won't be you. Watching you cry for another 4 years be it Obama or UT is gonna be fun.

Yeah, because Obama's done such a greeeat job, he so deserves another term.

"Ummm tick, oprama is a socialist."

Did you go to public school, puter? Or your kids? If so, you're a socialist, too...

Hacksaw wrote:Yeah, because Obama's done such a greeeat job, he so deserves another term.

He's dug himself our of GWBs escape tunnel. Stop crying about it already.

hedge wrote:"Ummm tick, oprama is a socialist."

Did you go to public school, puter? Or your kids? If so, you're a socialist, too...

People who send their children to Public school aren't Socialists numbnuts. Public school (although socialized) had nothing to DO with what we today, call socialism. Public school (on this continent) was brought about by the Protestant belief in the saving of souls of their children from eternal damnation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_School_Laws

wiki wrote:The 1647 legislation specifically framed ignorance as a Satanic ill to be circumvented through the education of the country's young people. It required every town having more than 50 families to hire a teacher, and every town of more than 100 families to establish a "grammar school". Failure to comply with the mandate would result in a fine of £5. The grammar school clause was intended to prepare students to attend Harvard College, whose mission was to prepare young men for the ministry.

http://www.americareclaimed.org/element ... 1647)p.pdf

Old Deluder Act wrote:It being one chief project of that old deluder, Satan, to keep men from the knowledge of
the Scriptures, as in former times keeping them in an unknown tongue, so in these later
times by perswading from the use of tongues, that so at least the true sense and meaning
of the Originall might be clowded by false glosses of Saint-seeming deceivers; and that
Learning may not be buried in the graves of our fore-fathers in Church and
Commonwealth, the Lord assisting our indeavors: it is therefore ordered by this Court
and Authoritie therof;

That every Township in this Jurisdiction, after the Lord hath increased them to the
number of fifty Housholders, shall then forthwith appoint one within their town to teach
all such children as shall resort to him to write and read, whose wages shall be paid either
by the Parents or Masters of such children

Public school WAS created because of Christianity, NOT because of Socialism. It was designed specifically so that our children could be taught to read the Gospels.

Fuck you Hedge.

Midway: 70 years ago today....

As the last of America’s Greatest Generation melts away, it saddens me to know that there are just a handful of people left who have any real memory of the US Navy’s most important victory in its entire history. This battle was vital for ALL naval warfare history, as it marked the true end of the battleship as “king of the sea” and the true beginning of the aircraft carrier as the most critical element of naval superiority.

Without aircraft carriers, all of Japan’s island conquests were now isolated and unsupplied. (Without carriers, you can’t deploy airpower over the vast Pacific. Without airpower, enemy surface warships are no longer sitting ducks and are now very deadly. With surface warships, your captured islands are left undefended from offshore bombardment and marine invasion.) In the 1930s and 1940s, everything in the Pacific depended upon airpower and fighter screens.

Had we lost the Battle of Midway (or should I say, if we lost the Enterprise and the Hornet, not just the Yorktown) there would have been NO island hopping, Australia would have fallen to the Japanese (probably), Hawaii would have been threatened by invasion, Alaska would have fell, the Philippines would have remained in Japanese hands, and the Japanese could have made a military move on India! Getting any B-29 bomber with the Atom Bomb in range of Hiroshima or Nagasaki would have been almost impossible, too far to fly without refueling. Bombers HAD to island hop. Theoretically, the sinking of all three American Carriers (had it happened) could have enabled the Japanese to be in a position to threaten an attack on the West Coast of the United States, but the Japanese didn’t have even a fraction of the manpower to stage any real invasion of the State of California.

It was a critical battle. Japan losing all 4 carriers, ended the Empire of Japan. Japan had no real industrial capacity to replace what she had lost. Zeros could be rebuilt, aircraft carriers could not, not in that short of time. After Midway, the US turned the focus of their attention to the Nazis and started African and European invasions to assist the British (and also, the Soviets), while just toying with the Japanese, island by island.

I think IB likes bath salts