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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:48 am
by Stormaktstiden
Not the least bit surprising that UNC is fleecing their fans. One should always take advantage of "stupid" after all.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:13 am
by eCat
what is interesting is that UK and UNC have pretty much the same expense tied to college basketball with about 1million difference separating them in the 7-8 range. Duke on the other hand is at almost $14m in expenses.

So how in the hell is Duke spending $7m on expenses more than programs that give their college basketball program carte blanche to spend as they see fit?

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:14 am
by hedge
UK is the ones doing the fleecing, your "expenses" (ahem) are over $1 million more than ours. Nobody said recruiting titles were cheap. Meanwhile, Carolina brings in over $5 million more in revenue than UK...

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:19 am
by eCat
if you look at those numbers more closely, to have a serious basketball program, it appears you'll need to spend up to $8m as many major programs spend in the 5-8 range.

Jumping off the page are Marquette and Michigan St spending $13 and $9 million to run their programs but they are the only two besides Duke that break double digits.
I'm sure what actually appears as a cost varies widely but its interesting to me that several schools all fall within a basic range of each other when it comes to costs.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:22 am
by Stormaktstiden
Since Dook is private they don't have to release details on how much they pay Krycholsky, correct?

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:23 am
by eCat
look at Ohio St - 16m revenue, 4m expense - not bad and they have a decent program as well. Zona is 17 and 6 and Louisville - $25m and 8. Holy Cow

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:27 am
by hedge
Where is Louisville getting $25.5 mil in revenue?

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:28 am
by hedge
You can sort that list by whichever criterion you're interested in looking at...

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:33 am
by hedge
Of course, you can always go the cheap route, like NCState. They're #12 in gross profit and #5 in profit margin due to being niggardly on expenses, i.e., not shelling out for a top coaching staff. Their motto is "profitability thru suckage"...

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:37 am
by eCat
hedge wrote:Where is Louisville getting $25.5 mil in revenue?

I can't imagine. Its not merchandise and its not tv/radio. Plus they have to give Pitino a $5m longevity bonus this year.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:38 am
by onion eyed gudgeon
sardis wrote:wait til the Pitt job opens up...
Yeah, I know. Every successful coach in the country is a potential slut.

One glance at Miller... he has no skin color, never goes out and plays in the sun... which tells me that he has those east-coast chromasomes that bellow "i'd rather be indoors in a humid, sunless city that smells like deisel exhaust and urine." And, as we all know, a dog always returns to his own vomit.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:05 pm
by Jungle Rat
hedge wrote:Where is Louisville getting $25.5 mil in revenue?
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:24 pm
by onion eyed gudgeon
Jungle Rat wrote:
hedge wrote:Where is Louisville getting $25.5 mil in revenue?
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Likely also that some of it comes from Kentucky's number one cash crop:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/kentuck ... id=8935635

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:29 pm
by aTm
eCat wrote:if you look at those numbers more closely, to have a serious basketball program, it appears you'll need to spend up to $8m as many major programs spend in the 5-8 range.

Jumping off the page are Marquette and Michigan St spending $13 and $9 million to run their programs but they are the only two besides Duke that break double digits.
I'm sure what actually appears as a cost varies widely but its interesting to me that several schools all fall within a basic range of each other when it comes to costs.
Apparently A&M's AD had to choke and sputter in his soda yesterday when he found out that Buzz Williams somehow makes close to $4million per season at Marquette (according to some newspaper hack, anyway, I still dont see how that could possibly be true, but it does seem to be fact that we basically can't or won't pay him what he wants.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:51 pm
by eCat
what has Buzz Williams done to deserve that kind of jack

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:17 pm
by aTm
My guess is that the answer is prove to be OK enough that they just wont let him be the next Crean.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 2:03 pm
by hedge
When I first read that, I thought you wrote "My guess is to answer the phone"...

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:06 pm
by Stormaktstiden
Not only does UL overpay Pitino, I think Pitino also got nice cushy salaries for his assistants as well. That whole staff is grossly overpaid.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:37 pm
by Ron Mexico
Damn, I leave and Gary's the coach, come back and it's some midwestern fuck working in Texas. If he doesn't get the job done, I hold ATM accountable.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:46 pm
by eCat
Ron Mexico wrote:Damn, I leave and Gary's the coach, come back and it's some midwestern fuck working in Texas. If he doesn't get the job done, I hold ATM accountable.
well his last guy was a raving success