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Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:41 pm
by aTm
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Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:14 pm
by 10ac
"nattering nabobs of negativism"

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:38 pm
by DooKSucks
Where are pics of this somewhat hot doctor's wife who is running for the legislature?

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:34 pm
by aTm
I assign you the job.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:41 pm
by Jungle Rat
Great. More Kirsty Alley pics.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:37 am
by Bklyn
A relentless drumbeat of demonizing the president gave rise to all sorts of dark conspiracy theories, driven by the conviction that the first African-American president of the United States was somehow un-American. Hating Obama became a profitable cottage industry, with the publication of at least 89 different obsessively anti-Obama books -- more than twice the number that were directed at President George W. Bush by the end of his first term. Unhinged ideas seeped perilously close to the mainstream, to the point that the gap between partisan narrative and actual facts seems cavernous and finds fellow Americans divided beyond reason.

This has real civic cost. A president who has presided over a doubling of the stock market is called socialist or even communist. A president who ordered the killing of Osama bin Laden is seen by some as secret Islamist-sympathizer. And perhaps most important, a president whose actual record leads respected nonpartisan political scientists at the VoteView blog to say "President Obama is the most moderate Democratic president since the end of World War II" is instead seen as a far-left liberal. A reality check is overdue.

Add to this unhealthy civic mix the unprecedented amount of money flowing into this election -- expected to exceed $6 billion total. The most troubling aspect is the rise of dark money, the abuse of tax-exempt 501(c)(4) organizations to hide donors while flooding the airwaves with negative ads.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, spending from these nondisclosing groups has passed $200 million in this election -- more than every other election cycle over the past 20 years combined -- and 88% of the ads airing now from outside groups are negative.

Just three groups -- the Karl Rove-founded Crossroads GPS, the Koch Brothers-backed Americans for Prosperity, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce -- account for more spending than the next 17 outside groups combined. This makes a mockery of post-Citizens United promises about unlimited money being combined with unprecedented disclosure, and the net impact is chilling: This is perilously close to what trying to buy an election looks like.
http://m.cnn.com/primary/cnnd_fullartic ... es:1#page2

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:51 am
by Bklyn
Apparently this is what Harry Reid was referencing when he accused Romney of going years without paying any taxes (which still can't be substantiated with this information...but it would considerably dilute his taxable income)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-2 ... tions.html

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:36 am
by sardis
I don't see what the big deal is. Acts a lot like an IRA. Tax deferred in its earnings. Taxed when individuals receive payments from the trust. Do you think he should be taxed on the money he leaves in the trust for the charity?

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:45 am
by Bklyn
I don't have a problem with anyone taking advantage of the tax code. I do. I don't support Romney for a list of reasons I've laid out here, but his advantageous use of the tax code is not one of them.

However, as a political story this seems to be why he only reported his returns the last two years and his hesitance to provide full disclosure of his fortuitous taxable income situation. I think we all can agree this information, if found out by the predominance of American voters, would not be helpful to Romney. It was smart to play defense all the way up to election day on the issue.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:10 am
by hedge
"Do you think he should be taxed on the money he leaves in the trust for the charity?"

I don't think churches should be tax exempt. At the very least, money given to a church shouldn't be tax deductible...

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:17 am
by crashcourse
I still have a big problem with the benghazi coverup but when obama took out benladen the way he did despite his VP and others urging him not to he got my vote. I just hope there are enough WASP racists to cancel mine out and put romney in. country needs a kick in the ass economic wise. why would we vote for a guy who really never worked other then being a politician versus a guy who is a multimillionaire from being in the work force that ran a state to boot.

adding more govt programs is not the answer

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:52 am
by aTm
I understand not liking that tax breaks exist, but for the vast majority of people being upset that someone actually used a tax loophole is just money jelaousy and hypocrisy. This is the same populace that ou see every day fraudulently buying educational versions of software, downloading movies and TV programs, cutting across parking lots instead of waiting at the light, and any other number of shenanigans to try and get over on anybody and everybody they can.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:03 am
by hedge
That's what Romney should say, "Sure, I only pay 13% federal income tax, but you drove across the parking lot at WalMart, so we're even". That would go over nicely...

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:06 am
by aTm
Just because people dont being like told that their shit smells too, doesnt make it untrue. people bitch and moan because they wish they could do it too, not because they are high and mighty. Its all just a meaningless popularity ploy. Romney's assface wouldnt be a great guy even he donated 50% of his icome to the govt just because he wanted too.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:43 am
by eCat
I'm in Detroit this week.

Just the place I want to be if a black man loses the presidency

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:45 am
by BigRedMan
Stay indoors on Tuesday evening.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:20 pm
by Bklyn
LOL. Do that even when Obama wins. Shit, it's Detroit.

Seriously, that last sentence is a license plate option in Michigan.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:53 pm
by Owlman
aTm wrote:I understand not liking that tax breaks exist, but for the vast majority of people being upset that someone actually used a tax loophole is just money jelaousy and hypocrisy. This is the same populace that ou see every day fraudulently buying educational versions of software, downloading movies and TV programs, cutting across parking lots instead of waiting at the light, and any other number of shenanigans to try and get over on anybody and everybody they can.

I don't have a problem with the tax break or him taking advantage of it. I have a problem with those thinking that the tax break should continue.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:26 pm
by THE_WIZARD_
If Romney didn't shelter his money from excessive taxation then he would be too stupid to be President.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:35 pm
by crashcourse
wiz

your the only one I know too stupid to be president

sincerely

crash