The Goat Pen

eCat wrote:

Bklyn wrote:I know...both of your points (and I lived in Edinburgh in 1999). I'm saying those foods were slave food in the antebellum south. Today they are "soul food delicacies." Pigs feet, hog mawls and chitlins were not consumed by people of means.

from the rooter to the tooter! The whole pig.....

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Gotta love John Witherspoon. Played that whole role like he had gristle in his mouth constantly.

Nothing went to waste. You kill a hog, you use it all. My family made most of it into sausages, though.

I knew sheep and pig intestines were a thing in Scotland. Apparently England, too:

Chitterlings were common peasant food in medieval England, and remained a staple of the diet of low-income families right up until the late 19th century. Thomas Hardy wrote of chitterlings in his novel Tess of the D'Urbervilles, when the father of a poor family, John Durbeyfield, talks of what he would like to eat:

Tell 'em at home that I should like for supper, – well, lamb's fry if they can get it; and if they can't, black-pot; and if they can't get that, well, chitterlings will do.

"Did they eat chitterlings/chitlins in Appalachia? "

I'd say if you kept pigs or were neighbors with anybody who did, there was a good chance you had chittlins at some time or other. And back in the day, that included just about everybody that didn't live in town. As you mentioned earlier, I kinda doubt chittlins were the first choice of the wealthy planter, but for the rest of the poor country folk (which was 95% of em), they et the whole damn hawg. The intestines were also used as casing for sausage. I believe it still is...

My grandmother definitely used the casings for sausage back in the day. Also, the smokehouse was (apparently) where my father took most of his beatings.

not sure why but I had a craving for McDonalds today.

They have a "grand" Big Mac that is huge.

A combo will set you back about $8 but it was pretty good

I guess I feel better about eating at McDonalds, although this was the first time in awhile, since I feel like they are under the microscope using pink slime.

I haven't eaten at McDonald's in 15 years at least...

clearly you've never had to buy happy meals

ugh, I'm wishing I hadn't now

Zantac time

supposedly good movie about kroc and the McDonald brothers out there now

McDonald brothers got screwed--supposedly handshake agreement that they call 1/2% of all proceeds when they sold-100million dollars a year for their idea but kroc fucked em

Nah. You don't agree to a half-proceeds on a buyout deal for 5-cent hamburgers. Margins are too thin.

Ray Kroc sold milkshake mixers. He was a traveling salesman. It's not like he was some worldly tycoon. The brothers had no interest in expanding or franchising. They thought it would be a money drain. So, Kroc sold them on selling.

After McDonald's became a billion dollar company some of the McDonald's descendants started with some revision for a money grab. It didn't work.

AlabamAlum wrote:Nah. You don't agree to a half-proceeds on a buyout deal for 5-cent hamburgers. Margins are too thin.

Ray Kroc sold milkshake mixers. He was a traveling salesman. It's not like he was some worldly tycoon. The brothers had no interest in expanding or franchising. They thought it would be a money drain. So, Kroc sold them on selling.

After McDonald's became a billion dollar company some of the McDonald's descendants started with some revision for a money grab. It didn't work.

the whole idea of franchising was pretty strange too. The reaction was "why would anyone want to go to a restaurant where it all tastes the same?"

Kroc was a master of throughput and execution.

The McDonald's family got fucked...but only in the way capitalism fucks some parties on transactions. It wasn't anything unethical.

The McDonald brothers signed off on it. They thought he was crazy and that their little 5-cent burgers weren't all that special.

As an aside, Kroc's book "Grinding it Out" was a decent read.

I have no sympathy for the McDonald Bros, just as I have none for Ron Wayne who sold his stake in Apple for $800 and lost literally (capital B) billions.

What's the difference b/w capital B billions and small b billions? (say it like Mush Mouth of Fat Albert fame)...

I was just stressing that he lost billions.

But if he took that $800 and invested it in McDonalds that year, he'd have about $3M worth of stock...plus dividends. That's reduces the opportunity cost.

0.5% on the handshake deal

not 50%

interviewed the grandson on cbs sunday morning--said even thought the deal was made and kroc never honored the 0.5%--mcdonald brothers weren't that motivated to sue
they were happier about the movie being done

crashcourse wrote:0.5% on the handshake deal

not 50%

interviewed the grandson on cbs sunday morning--said even thought the deal was made and kroc never honored the 0.5%--mcdonald brothers weren't that motivated to sue
they were happier about the movie being done

They probably get free apple turnovers to keep them happy.

crashcourse wrote:0.5% on the handshake deal

not 50%

interviewed the grandson on cbs sunday morning--said even thought the deal was made and kroc never honored the 0.5%--mcdonald brothers weren't that motivated to sue
they were happier about the movie being done

That, pardon the pun, is a crock. So, you do a "handshake deal" on 0.5% and when that verbiage isn't in the contract, you sign it anyway? Then they weren't "motivated to sue" for what amounted to a metric fuck ton of cash?

Yeah. It's sour grapes. I am firmly in the Kroc camp on this. If they are that stupid, they don't need the money anyway. They'd just waste it on scratch-offs and wifi-dampening plaster walls.

Bklyn wrote:But if he took that $800 and invested it in McDonalds that year, he'd have about $3M worth of stock...plus dividends. That's reduces the opportunity cost.

Heh. Imagine the remorse at losing $35 billion so you could get less than a grand back. Or even $3mil in McStock. lol.