The Goat Pen

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:17 pm

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:28 pm

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:49 am So women are just property. Got it.

Idiot

Jordan Peterson nails it in his "marriage is self-imposed slavery" argument, best argument for ending no-fault-divorce I have ever heard.

Jordan Peterson wrote:If the possibility of divorce is open, that makes you free. Yeah, you want to be free eh? Really? So you can't predict anything, that is what you are after? Its a vow. And it says look I know that you are trouble. Me too. So we wont leave (each other.) No matter what happens. Well that is a hell of a vow but that's why its a vow. That is why you take in front of a bunch of people. Its supposed to be a sacred act. What's the alternative? Everything is mutable and changeable at any moment. Well go ahead, live your life like that and see what your life is like when you are 50. Jesus, its dismal. Two or three divorces. Your family is fragmented. You've got no continuity of narrative. And its not good for the kids.

You want your kids to wind up like you? 50+ years old and divorced with no continuity of narrative?

Yeah rat, women are property of their husbands. That is why the father gives his daughter to the son-in-law in the wedding ceremony, its a transfer of ownership. And you know what? Only a feminist woman would NOT want to be her husband's property. And you know why? Because men like things. And generally speaking, men take great care of things that they own. So a woman who wants to be treated special, she really wants her husband to own her. That is what makes her special. I have actually worked with women who openly admitted to me (after giving it careful thought) that they like being OWNED by their husbands.

What do you call a woman that a man just "rents", rat?

You need to be involuntarily committed.

Really? Well we don't really do that anymore now do we? More to the point, since you are an attorney you already know the following:

See if your intention was to have me committed, you should have kept me in Wisconsin where the arrest record, the video tape, the eye witness accounts of my inappropriate behavior would have jurisdictional relevance. I have no criminal record in state of New York and the crucial, determining criteria for involuntary commitment is danger. Is the defendant a danger to himself or others? Now you think you got the horses for that? Because the last place you want to see me is in court.

Antifa is deadly dangerous. How many antifa were involuntarily committed after they burned down buildings and city blocks? None. And if anyone had tried to have them institutionalized, would you have defended their mayhem and violence? I'll bet you would have if their check was large enough.

DS, not only are you a shitty person for busting up marriages, you aren't even smart enough about the law to know that without playing the "danger" card, you'll never have me (or anyone) committed involuntarily. Saying wives should be the property of their husbands (something that even some women agree with) is dangerous to no one. You are the one who is making the threat. That means the only person who is dangerous here, is you.

Practice another form of law counsellor. I don't care which one, anything other than what you are doing now. I don't care if you start chasing ambulances. Stop destroying marriages, you shit sucking vampire.

You are a fucking idiot.

Am I stupid, the village idiot OR am I a criminal mastermind and dangerous, someone who needs to be committed because I haven't committed a crime yet? Which is it? You are playing both sides here counsellor.

Good thing you don't need to convince juries to get divorces because you just lost yours. You can't pick an argument you can win with. So you try both of them at the same time when both can't be true.

Jordan Peterson is an idiot who thinks he's smart. That bit on divorce is painful to read, esp knowing there's people who look up to him as some sort of intellectual.

Tree wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:46 pm Jordan Peterson is an idiot who thinks he's smart.

Are you kidding me? If Christ came back to the Earth, Peterson would be one of His 12 new disciples. Look at what he does to one of the Senators in the Canadian Parliament...



She thought she could catch him in a logic box. So she opened her mouth, asked that stupid question, and she went and fucked herself right in her own pie hole! The moderator had to save her ass from further embarrassment by cutting Peterson off at the 5 minute mark. None of them could keep up with him, none of them. He was WAY BEYOND their intellectual capacity.

It didn't really matter. This whole thing was a dog and pony show. They all voted in favor of the bill anyway for no other reason than politics. The bill made no sense and Peterson proved that. Actually, I'm kind of surprised they even bothered to give him a forum to make his case. They wont do that again.

Yeah tree, he's real smart.

Tree wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:46 pmThat bit on divorce is painful to read, esp knowing there's people who look up to him as some sort of intellectual.

It is only painful for you because it is accurate and truthful. Sometimes, truth hurts (painfully bad.) That IS the reason why people get married.

One of his most well known ideas is to preach a cultural red scare. My friend bought a book of his and was telling me about it and it was pretty clear he was just stealing ideas from Carl Jung. The guy is a pseudo-intellectual of the dumbest order.

Tree wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:58 am One of his most well known ideas is to preach a cultural red scare. My friend bought a book of his and was telling me about it and it was pretty clear he was just stealing ideas from Carl Jung. The guy is a pseudo-intellectual of the dumbest order.

Preaching a Red scare? What are you talking about? Could you find that youtube please? I am having a hard time finding Peterson preaching a cultural red scare. He preaches taking responsibility for your life. He preaches that if you don't have a purpose to your life, then your life is one of abject misery. He is very mathematical and talks a lot about IQ and breaks down the math of IQ and how people on the lower end, there are no jobs for them in the information age and Western Civilization. That is not Red Scare. That is just a fundamental understanding of Macro-economics and how the job market in the West applies the psychology of the "marginal" male and his place in the world.

He has made some comments about Mao and communism but it was mostly and how communism relates to the working world. Like he has gone on the record to say that in Mao's communist China, all the workers must wear the same uniform and women are not permitted to wear makeup. Mao figured out that in order to get the "worker" to maximum capacity, they all had to look like drones, so to speak. Is that Red Scare?

When I googled Peterson and Red Scare, I found this:

https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/re ... CdqTsn0yr/

Okay so these women didn't actually interview him or quote him on the "Red Scare." He wasn't in the interview. He is not preaching anything here. But they did mention that he spent the $80K he made each month buying former Soviet propaganda material. We don't know that for sure but even if he did, BFD.

I think it would have been better for them to actually interview him but there is no way that Dasha Nekrasova, Anna Khachiyan, and their producer Meg Murnane, would ever be able to keep up with Peterson intellectually. So in order to discredit him, they had to talk about him in the 3rd person without him actually being present to represent his side. I certainly hope you do not take these three young ladies seriously tree. If they were serious people with a serious argument, they would have him on the show.

I mean, their avatar is a girl exposing her ass crack showing a red thong. Yeah, tree please tell me you don't take these three girls seriously do you? Please tell me that this interview was not what you were talking about.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/profile- ... dcast.html

The book your friend bought is probably this one:



Millions and millions of copies sold.

Look up Cultural Marxism. The man is an idiot.

Tree wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:10 pm Look up Cultural Marxism. The man is an idiot.

You brought up the Red Scare. I did my research.

Thanks for not dignifying my points in response to your question. Thanks for not answering even one of my questions.

23 days later.....

You need to "quote" for me to see a notification rat.

No you don't dumbass

He's preaching a neo-red scare when he talks about cultural Marxism. I assumed that would go without saying but my bad on that. Did I mention the man is an idiot?

Tree wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:18 pm He's preaching a neo-red scare when he talks about cultural Marxism. I assumed that would go without saying but my bad on that. Did I mention the man is an idiot?

If you think he is an idiot then you don't know what an idiot is.

You never answered any of my questions or even dignify my response to your "red scare" nonsense. I did the research and you just pooh-poohed all that because I blessed you out for not knowing what you are talking about.

As far as cultural marxism goes, everything he is saying about higher education and the people working in it to "subvert" Western Civilization is spot-on. What in the blue fuck do you think Critical Race Theory is if not cultural marxism? That rubbish that is being taught to our children sprung up in academia and the only reason why the people who taught it haven't been fired, is because they are tenured. Were it not for tenure, these people would never be able to hold a job NOR would they ever be put into a position of authority.

Sitting there and lecturing 19 year old kids on what they are supposed to believe and expecting them to parrot back to you exactly what you told them (or you flunk them) is the bullshit our kids must endure with cultural marxism. And he is right to point that out. And you are pissed off NOT because he's wrong. You are pissed off simply because he has a voice and a platform from which to reach out to people (and get them to listen) to show how fucked up academia currently is.

Ask yourself this tree, why hasn't academia "shunned" the nonsense about transgenderism? Why haven't they done that? They should be ASHAMED of themselves for not calling a spade a spade and telling these people that if they want to chop off their own penis because they think they are the wrong gender that they belong in an insane asylum. Academia used to define reality from fantasy. They no longer do that. They don't have to, not with people like YOU tolerating their nonsense.

"As far as cultural marxism goes, everything he is saying about higher education and the people working in it to "subvert" Western Civilization is spot-on."

Marxism is part of western civilization you idiot...

hedge wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:31 am "As far as cultural marxism goes, everything he is saying about higher education and the people working in it to "subvert" Western Civilization is spot-on."

Marxism is part of western civilization you idiot...

All "isms" are. All. That is where the "isms" originate. Be it Capitalism, Corporatism, Globalism, Nationalism, Marxism, Feminism, Socialism, Atheism, Communism, and now Trans-genderism, all of it originates in the West. They originate there because the West is where pretty much ALL the thinking happens. (Arabia has not done very much thinking past Algebra.)

The thing is, once people in The West see an "ism" for the first time and they start to do their OWN thinking and their OWN research (because that is what we do in the West) then we call out the behavior that we do not tolerate. Karl Marx may very well thought he was on to something. But The West still very much like Capitalism and Corporatism and increasingly, Globalism. Those things seem to work out very well for us. Capitalism, Corporatism, and Globalism most certainly do NOT work well with Marxism. Atheism does NOT work out well for us either. The reason why it does not work out well is because half the population in the West still has an IQ below 100. And without spiritual guidance, those people who do not have much intellectual mustard on the ball, their lives are in ruin in the absence of God. Spend just 4 hours in the white ghetto of Appalachia and you will see. The Soviet Union learned this lesson on Marxism the hard way, the very hard way (to the tune of 100,000,000 dead over 80 years.) The rot or Marxism still lingers. What a filthy legacy.

Western Civilization comes up with all the thinking. Marxism was part of that thinking hedge. But (over a period of decades) we have carefully analyzed Marxism. We have studied it and anyone in the West who fully understands it, that person also understands why it is a filthy philosophy that benefits almost no one. And Dr Peterson is right to call out the culture and wicked and poisonous.

YMMV

I'd bet a lot of money that you haven't read one word that Marx wrote, to say nothing of having even the most rudimentary understanding of Marxism, except what your feeble mind has gleaned from the bite-sized morsels that Peterson has fed you. Did you know that much of Marx's thought was a reaction against Hegel? Do you even know who Hegel was? Didn't think so...

hedge wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:00 am I'd bet a lot of money that you haven't read one word that Marx wrote, to say nothing of having even the most rudimentary understanding of Marxism, except what your feeble mind has gleaned from the bite-sized morsels that Peterson has fed you. Did you know that much of Marx's thought was a reaction against Hegel? Do you even know who Hegel was? Didn't think so...

Do you always answer your own questions before the person you are asking can answer them? I thought so.

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