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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:59 am
by Jonquil the Dauphin
Only seven of 16 games played Saturday and Sunday had the winner reaching 70 points. I've never seen more "Team X hasn't scored a FG in 5:00" or whatever scrolls at the bottom of the television screen.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:01 am
by Bklyn
All the scorers keep going pro after a year or two. All that stick around are hardworking defenders. So you have hustling Juniors and Seniors to play D (with the occasional assisted basket), while you rely on the March shooting of Freshman and Sophomores for the bulk of your scoring.

At least that's how I view the big conference teams.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:14 am
by Gator by God's Grace
offense in college hoops in general seems to have regressed over the last decade plus.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:17 am
by Jonquil the Dauphin
Look at who's left in the tournament, and with a few exceptions it's a who's who of teams that have lots of length and athleticism, but not exactly a ton of scoring prowess.

Watching the USF-Ohio game was painful (though watching any USF game can be painful). Kansas has some guys who can score, but that Purdue game was also an abomination. The FSU-Cincy game could be used as a new inquisition strategy by the CIA.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:33 am
by Jungle Rat
goldenbear wrote:No ecat they let Crighton play with an edge and physical

and now the refs will have some explaing to do with that play then and injury to a player
Did you not watch the UC-FSU game? Your head would have exploded had UNC been a part of either of those two teams last night. Bodies were flying everywhere and the refs just let them play, as they should have.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:38 am
by hedge
"By the by, has anybody noticed the quality of offense, in general, has been horrid this tournament? It's like first team to 60 wins."

"I would think the average score is closer to 70 than 60, and that doesnt seem all that far off from normal"

It's nice to see Jonquil sassed down (bootless or no) so quickly after such a long break from the boards. It's as if he never left...

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:39 am
by hedge
"I would think the average score is closer to 70 than 60, and that doesnt seem all that far off from normal"

"Only seven of 16 games played Saturday and Sunday had the winner reaching 70 points."

What does the that last statement have to do with average score?

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:42 am
by Jungle Rat
Also Goldie, during the OU-SF game you posted that if UNC doesn't beat either Ohio or South Florida by 25 you would be pissed. Then you find out later you lose one player and suddenly UNC is going to lose?

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:07 pm
by Jonquil the Dauphin
The average score was 65 on the nose per team per game on Saturday and Sunday. Not exactly a bunch of barnburners.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:08 pm
by Gator by God's Grace
just as Syracuse has advanced without a star player in games against the softies, so shall unc advance over 13th seeded Ohio...

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:16 pm
by crashcourse
hate to tell you rat but talent is in the dollar pool

posted on the website for yahoo and about 10 pages back on this thread

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:31 pm
by aTm
Scott Drew involved in shady (well, in this case, blatantly against the rules) recruiting practices (contacting a player at another school to transfer) according DJ Cooper and his mom. Of course, I'm sure they made it all up and Scott Drew just happened to be the unlucky coach they made up something about in order to gain, well, Im not sure what they gain exactly but it must all be lies.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:33 pm
by aTm
That whole hullabaloo about his staff supposedly threatening to get a kid deported if he didn't commit was another example of how certain media types are just out to get the Baylor program for no reason.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:37 pm
by aTm
I'm sure Drew used an "unofficial" phone to make such calls though and thus can deny it, unlike some people we could mention...
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:00 pm
by Gator by God's Grace
it's March Sassness time, baybee!

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:34 pm
by Fifer
Jonquil the Dauphin wrote:The average score was 65 on the nose per team per game on Saturday and Sunday. Not exactly a bunch of barnburners.

You have to rip a guys head off now before they call a foul, so not near as many points are scored with the clock stopped. I don't know the stats but fouls and points scored at the line have to be way way down in recent years. I can't remember the last time I saw a college game where one team scored a hundred points. Its all about defense.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:23 pm
by Jungle Rat
crashcourse wrote:hate to tell you rat but talent is in the dollar pool

posted on the website for yahoo and about 10 pages back on this thread
I never saw Talent post that he was in the pool except for after the games started over on Yahoo. The only times he's posted here since last May was to say something about Hizzy. It's cool though, he's a Buckeye fan, all Buckeyes like breaking the rules.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:38 pm
by Saint
I'm wondering why so many teams keep shooting 2s when they're down 5 or 6 late. There was one team, can't remember who now, who was down 3 and took a 2 in the final 3-4 seconds. It was a botched play but still the guy had a chance to throw it out to the perimeter. Loucks for FSU last night kept going in for layups when they were down 6 inside 30 seconds.

shoot the 3, idiots.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:39 pm
by Saint
despite all the Twitter stuff today from Marshall's dad, I still don't think he can play with much effectiveness this weekend if he even tries. someone suggested using Bullock at PG and that would be disastrous but not as much as having Barnes there.

Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:00 pm
by Gator by God's Grace
how can anyone play basketball with one hand? in the modern era, that is?