The Goat Pen

Or, as he was called in Peducah, Turr...

I have been all over California in the last 5 years and the only place I would think about living is Lake Tahoe.

Anyway more people are moving out than in. Clearly, your idea of “quality of life” is different than most.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/ ... flows.html

I love San Diego. Also like Carmel-By-The -Sea, some Danish town whose name escapes me, several of the towns in and around Napa, Catalina, and a few others.

Anywhere along the Cali coast outside the LA area is great...

My main problem with Cali is cost of living. My $300k house in a suburb of Bham would cost millions in most of Cali. That, and the taxes are very high.

"Anyway more people are moving out than in. Clearly, your idea of “quality of life” is different than most."

According to your link, Cali had a net loss of about 100,000 people last year. Their total population is just under 40 million. So they lost about one quarter of one percent of their population in 2018. Yeah, it really appears that people are fleeing like lemmings, at this rate there won't be any people in California by the year 2419...

"My main problem with Cali is cost of living. My $300k house in a suburb of Bham would cost millions in most of Cali. That, and the taxes are very high."

True, but the population of greater LA/San Diego/San Fran combined is over 30 million, so something must be working. I mean, I get that it's expensive, but it's obviously just wrong to say "nobody can afford to live there," (I know you didn't say that, but you do hear it often) b/c basically 10% of the the entire population of the country does live there, evidently by choice. On another note, that leaves the entire rest of the state to less than 10 million people, so there's plenty of leg room outside the major metro areas...

I could afford to live there. I would just have a lot less house and a lot less free money. I like having a nice house that still leaves me with disposable income for travel and other luxuries. Others have different priorites or were unable to find a career in fly-over country that provides them with sufficient income, so their choice was easier (if not forced).

I have heard that B'ham has become a destination for foodies. Well, maybe not quite a destination, but that the restaurant scene has picked up quite a bit...

American migration to California is negative, more are leaving than arriving. Foreign migration to California (Mexico, East Asia, South Asia) is what makes up the difference, along with births, although the birth rate is low.

hedge wrote:I have heard that B'ham has become a destination for foodies. Well, maybe not quite a destination, but that the restaurant scene has picked up quite a bit...

It has been for a while. Highland Bar and Grill won James Beard's best restaurant in America award recently, but we have an abundance of very good places. For a city its size, I don't think anywhere comes close to Bham.

How's their BBQ?

Excellent.

White sauce capital

I go for the Vulcan statue...

White sauce is a north Alabama thing. Big Bob Gibson's. It was developed for chicken.

To me, north Alabama is everything north of I-10

A+

AlabamAlum wrote:White sauce is a north Alabama thing. Big Bob Gibson's. It was developed for chicken.

also the Greenbrier

heading out to Tuscaloosa saturday

AlabamAlum wrote: some Danish town whose name escapes me

Solvang. Just enjoyed a wonderful destination wedding there at Alisal Ranch.

California obviously isn't for everyone but I wouldn't live anywhere else. And, wouldn't force any of you to move here. That's part of its beauty and wonder. I travel quite a bit and am always happy to return to my adopted home of more than 37 years.