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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:32 pm
by Professor Tiger
That's what I thought until I read the part in the article, "...and is presumed to be intact since it is programmed to fly level and find a place to land, rather than crashing."

We'll know if Ahmadinejad takes her up for a spin on camera.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 pm
by AugustWest
I've heard it both ways. burning wreck and relatively intact. if some obscure lab in Iran suddenly blows up we'll know.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:49 pm
by Professor Tiger
if some obscure lab in Iran suddenly blows up we'll know.
If so, it was carrying a payload of simmering meth.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:26 pm
by AugustWest
that or we figure out where it is and blow it up.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:39 pm
by Professor Tiger
We'll contract that out to the Israelis.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:47 pm
by bluetick
Image

From NASA...the people who brought you Tang and the moonshot.

Even puter respects and references NASA.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:53 pm
by bluetick
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

not exactly hockeyschtick.com

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:05 pm
by Hacksaw
Not that NASA would be looking for anything, now that the shuttle has been retired, to justify their funding.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:22 pm
by billy bob bocephus
I wonder what that graph would look like if global temperature were also tracked for the same time - would temperature lead or lag CO2 concentration?...I wonder...

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:39 pm
by Professor Tiger
From NASA...the people who brought you Tang and the moonshot.
I note the vertical axis measures CO2, not temperature.

IIRC, the top two producers of greenhouse gases are: 1. volcanoes and 2. cow flatulence.

So there must have been a lot of mountains erupting and guernsies farting recently.

Also, I thought that the main mission of NASA these days is to help enhance the self-esteem of the Arab world.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:51 am
by bluetick
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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:18 am
by bluetick
bluetick wrote:
Professor Tiger wrote:
From NASA...the people who brought you Tang and the moonshot.
I note the vertical axis measures CO2, not temperature.
Mainly because that particular chart deals with CO2 levels...hence the big blue "CO2" in the middle of the chart. In the "CO2 section." Followed by other sections, one of which dealt with warming temperatures. sheesh
IIRC, the top two producers of greenhouse gases are: 1. volcanoes and 2. cow flatulence.

So there must have been a lot of mountains erupting and guernsies farting recently.
Incorrect. The top two components of greenhouse gases are water vapor and carbon dioxide.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:23 am
by bluetick
From NASA and the "warming temperature" section:

All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880. Most of the warming has occured since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occured since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occuring in the past 12 years. Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:01 pm
by Professor Tiger
Incorrect. The top two components of greenhouse gases are water vapor and carbon dioxide.
You said "components." I said "producers." Not the same.

But since you mentioned water vapor and carbon dioxide, those are both horribly dangerous, and especially unnatural, gasses indeed. Too much carbon dioxide can lead to increased photosynthesis, which is a huge danger to the planet. And don't get me started about the havoc that water vapor wreaks on the atmosphere.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:07 pm
by Toemeesleather
Methinks Prof needs readjustment training in Siberia....the good will be bad and the bad will be good.


"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?... Has it ever occurred to your, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?... The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking-not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 5

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:11 pm
by 10ac
Warmer planet = more motorcycle time.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:33 pm
by Jungle Rat
And women with less layers and more skin showing.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:39 pm
by 10ac
EFZ

Are GWists gay?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:44 pm
by Hacksaw
Just the ones who post here.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:52 pm
by bluetick
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/2007/07_02_15.html

because while the average of 200 million tons of [volcano-generated] CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tons. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value.

It hasn't always been that way, prof, so you're partially correct. Before the Industrial Revolution, volcanic eruptions were indeed the leading producer of the CO2 greenhouse gas. So you got that going for you.