Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Professor Tiger]

That's what I thought until I read the part in the article, "...and is presumed to be intact since it is programmed to fly level and find a place to land, rather than crashing."

We'll know if Ahmadinejad takes her up for a spin on camera.

[AugustWest]

I've heard it both ways. burning wreck and relatively intact. if some obscure lab in Iran suddenly blows up we'll know.

[Professor Tiger]

if some obscure lab in Iran suddenly blows up we'll know.

If so, it was carrying a payload of simmering meth.

[AugustWest]

that or we figure out where it is and blow it up.

[Professor Tiger]

We'll contract that out to the Israelis.

[bluetick]

From NASA...the people who brought you Tang and the moonshot.

Even puter respects and references NASA.

[bluetick]

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

not exactly hockeyschtick.com

[Hacksaw]

Not that NASA would be looking for anything, now that the shuttle has been retired, to justify their funding.

[billy bob bocephus]

I wonder what that graph would look like if global temperature were also tracked for the same time - would temperature lead or lag CO2 concentration?...I wonder...

[Professor Tiger]

From NASA...the people who brought you Tang and the moonshot.

I note the vertical axis measures CO2, not temperature.

IIRC, the top two producers of greenhouse gases are: 1. volcanoes and 2. cow flatulence.

So there must have been a lot of mountains erupting and guernsies farting recently.

Also, I thought that the main mission of NASA these days is to help enhance the self-esteem of the Arab world.

[bluetick]

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[bluetick]

From NASA...the people who brought you Tang and the moonshot.

I note the vertical axis measures CO2, not temperature.

Mainly because that particular chart deals with CO2 levels...hence the big blue "CO2" in the middle of the chart. In the "CO2 section." Followed by other sections, one of which dealt with warming temperatures. sheesh

IIRC, the top two producers of greenhouse gases are: 1. volcanoes and 2. cow flatulence.

So there must have been a lot of mountains erupting and guernsies farting recently.

Incorrect. The top two components of greenhouse gases are water vapor and carbon dioxide.

[bluetick]

From NASA and the "warming temperature" section:

All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880. Most of the warming has occured since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occured since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occuring in the past 12 years. Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase.

[Professor Tiger]

Incorrect. The top two components of greenhouse gases are water vapor and carbon dioxide.

You said "components." I said "producers." Not the same.

But since you mentioned water vapor and carbon dioxide, those are both horribly dangerous, and especially unnatural, gasses indeed. Too much carbon dioxide can lead to increased photosynthesis, which is a huge danger to the planet. And don't get me started about the havoc that water vapor wreaks on the atmosphere.

[Toemeesleather]

Methinks Prof needs readjustment training in Siberia....the good will be bad and the bad will be good.


"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?... Has it ever occurred to your, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?... The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking-not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 5

[10ac]

Warmer planet = more motorcycle time.

[Jungle Rat]

And women with less layers and more skin showing.

[10ac]

EFZ

Are GWists gay?

[Hacksaw]

Just the ones who post here.

[bluetick]

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/2007/07_02_15.html

because while the average of 200 million tons of [volcano-generated] CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tons. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value.

It hasn't always been that way, prof, so you're partially correct. Before the Industrial Revolution, volcanic eruptions were indeed the leading producer of the CO2 greenhouse gas. So you got that going for you.