The Goat Pen

BigRedMan wrote:Convince me I am not telling the truth Rat. People have screamed and went to court over shit just like that.

Dirty Hippie Female "HE TOUCHED BY BREAST!!! RAPE!!!"

Dirty Hippie Male "He touched my arm and made my Ipod shuffle to a song I don't like!!"

First off, they weren't hippies. They were college students sitting on a sidewalk in school, something some students do everyday.

Second, there is no way, that there is any charge of rape from the forcible removal in an arrest simply by picking up people moving. No prosecutor (and remember, it's up to the prosecutor to bring a rape charge, not an individual) would bring that case against the police, particularly in this day and age of multiple videos, something the police knew were present.

It doesn't matter whom does the charges. All they need is youtube.

SEE!! SEE!!! He touched my breast!!! See he was groping me!!!

And yes, I was trying to exaggerate the point with hippies comment and rape.

But instead you made yourself look foolish.

More nails in the coffin of the man-made global warming religion:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... lacey?pg=1

That's nothing new...our government has just been making stuff up as they go along for decades.

Take that back! Everybody at PNN knows that only Democrats do that sort of thing!

How do religions die? Generally they don't, which probably explains why there's so little literature on the subject. Zoroastrianism, for instance, lost many of its sacred texts when Alexander sacked Persepolis in 330 B.C., and most Zoroastrians converted to Islam over 1,000 years ago. Yet today old Zoroaster still counts as many as 210,000 followers, including 11,000 in the U.S. Christopher Hitchens might say you can't kill what wasn't there to begin with.

Still, Zeus and Apollo are no longer with us, and neither are Odin and Thor. Among the secular gods, Marx is mostly dead and Freud is totally so. Something did away with them, and it's worth asking what.

Consider the case of global warming, another system of doomsaying prophecy and faith in things unseen.

As with religion, it is presided over by a caste of spectacularly unattractive people pretending to an obscure form of knowledge that promises to make the seas retreat and the winds abate. As with religion, it comes with an elaborate list of virtues, vices and indulgences. As with religion, its claims are often non-falsifiable, hence the convenience of the term "climate change" when thermometers don't oblige the expected trend lines. As with religion, it is harsh toward skeptics, heretics and other "deniers." And as with religion, it is susceptible to the earthly temptations of money, power, politics, arrogance and deceit.

This week, the conclave of global warmings cardinals are meeting in Durban, South Africa, for their 17th conference in as many years. The idea is to come up with a successor to the Kyoto Protocol, which is set to expire next year, and to require rich countries to pony up $100 billion a year to help poor countries cope with the alleged effects of climate change. This is said to be essential because in 2017 global warming becomes "catastrophic and irreversible," according to a recent report by the International Energy Agency.

Yet a funny thing happened on the way to the climate apocalypse. Namely, the financial apocalypse.

The U.S., Russia, Japan, Canada and the EU have all but confirmed they won't be signing on to a new Kyoto. The Chinese and Indians won't make a move unless the West does. The notion that rich (or formerly rich) countries are going to ship $100 billion every year to the Micronesias of the world is risible, especially after they've spent it all on Greece.

Cap and trade is a dead letter in the U.S. Even Europe is having second thoughts about carbon-reduction targets that are decimating the continent's heavy industries and cost an estimated $67 billion a year. "Green" technologies have all proved expensive, environmentally hazardous and wildly unpopular duds.


That's where the Climategate emails come in. First released on the eve of the Copenhagen climate summit two years ago and recently updated by a fresh batch, the "hide the decline" emails were an endless source of fun and lurid fascination for those of us who had never been convinced by the global-warming thesis in the first place.

But the real reason they mattered is that they introduced a note of caution into an enterprise whose motivating appeal resided in its increasingly frantic forecasts of catastrophe. Papers were withdrawn; source material re-examined. The Himalayan glaciers, it turned out, weren't going to melt in 30 years. Nobody can say for sure how high the seas are likely to rise—if much at all. Greenland isn't turning green. Florida isn't going anywhere.

The reply global warming alarmists have made to these disclosures is that they did nothing to change the underlying science, and only improved it in particulars. So what to make of the U.N.'s latest supposedly authoritative report on extreme weather events, which is tinged with admissions of doubt and uncertainty? Oddly, the report has left climate activists stuttering with rage at what they call its "watered down" predictions. If nothing else, they understand that any belief system, particularly ones as young as global warming, cannot easily survive more than a few ounces of self-doubt.

Meanwhile, the world marches on. On Sunday, 2,232 days will have elapsed since a category 3 hurricane made landfall in the U.S., the longest period in more than a century that the U.S. has been spared a devastating storm. Great religions are wise enough to avoid marking down the exact date when the world comes to an end. Not so for the foolish religions. Expect Mayan cosmology to take a hit to its reputation when the world doesn't end on Dec. 21, 2012. Expect likewise when global warming turns out to be neither catastrophic nor irreversible come 2017.

And there is this: Religions are sustained in the long run by the consolations of their teachings and the charisma of their leaders. With global warming, we have a religion whose leaders are prone to spasms of anger and whose followers are beginning to twitch with boredom. Perhaps that's another way religions die.

Professor Tiger wrote:More nails in the coffin of the man-made global warming religion:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... lacey?pg=1

----Jim Lacey is professor of strategic studies at the Marine Corps War College. He is the author of the recently released The First Clash and Keep from All Thoughtful Men. The opinions presented here are entirely his own and do not represent those of the Department of Defense or any of its members.

heh

Typical tick. Jut attack the messenger instead of evaluating the message itself.

Any other issue and tick would be livid about the collusion between govt and "scientists".

The hiding of data and "tuning" of models.

WMD?

Of course some of my Democrat friends, who loved to bash Bush for the war, were shocked when I told them the vote for war in congress was nearly unanimous.

More jobs from rust/union belt head south....Where's NC on yer list, DSL?

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2011 ... Cincinnati

GBJs wrote:WMD?

Of course some of my Democrat friends, who loved to bash Bush for the war, were shocked when I told them the vote for war in congress was nearly unanimous.

Heh. They were probably shocked at your use of the term nearly unanimous.

126 of 208 Democratic Representatives voted against the resolution (61%). In the Senate, 21 Democratic Senators voted against, while 29 voted for it.

puterbac wrote:Typical tick. Jut attack the messenger instead of evaluating the message itself.

Any other issue and tick would be livid about the collusion between govt and "scientists".

The hiding of data and "tuning" of models.

And all I did was repeat the author's credentials.

Look, every legitimate scientific body in the civilized world has signed off on mmgw. The last to fall was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists...heh. Conversely, not a single scientific body of national or international standing rejects mmgw....let that sink in, okay?

What are you up to now...the geriatric weather jock, a couple of novelists, the Univ. of Ill/Urbana Meteorological Club, a comedian, and Andrew Watts? Now you can add a military strategist to the list. Hooray.

You really should reference Wiki if you're going to plaigarize...

bluetick wrote:

GBJs wrote:WMD?

Of course some of my Democrat friends, who loved to bash Bush for the war, were shocked when I told them the vote for war in congress was nearly unanimous.

Heh. They were probably shocked at your use of the term nearly unanimous.

126 of 208 Democratic Representatives voted against the resolution (61%). In the Senate, 21 Democratic Senators voted against, while 29 voted for it.

Your correct 'tick...I was continuing my smart ass mode from a couple of posts above.

Tick, those quotes of the e-mails of the East Anglia pseudo-scientists cited are devastating to the MMGW religion. They show that even the high priests and cardinals of this new MMGW religion don't even believe their own BS that they are trying to foist on a gullible public. The fact that that were cited by a guy you don't like does not negate the impact of the quotes themselves.

Unless you are denying the authenticity of the quotes, which I don't think anybody is doing.

Like any elitist worth their salt, he attacks the messenger.

Hurricane Season Spawns 19 Storms in Third-Most Active Year

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-2 ... ar-1-.html

Hmmmmm. All that ruckus without pepper spray? Impossible I tell ya!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/30/us/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t3