The Goat Pen

"Mr. Musk is already a major government contractor. Companies he owns or controls have secured $13 billion in federal contracts over the past five years."

Kinda makes that $8 million that Politico got paid over ten years seem like peanuts (about one quarter of 1% as Musk has gotten to be exact) but oddly enough I doubt I'll hear anybody in here whining about it. Just the opposite in fact. Drain the swamp indeed...

SpaceX has been paid almost all of those billions by launching things into space for NASA and the Department of Defense.

NASA has spent almost $26 billion with Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Pratt and Whitney, Aerojet, Lockheed-Martin etc etc for SLS which it appears is likely to be cancelled, ie $26 billion for a final result of a handful of test launches. The writing has been on the wall so they have started development with a $4 billion contract with SpaceX for Starship development, which SpaceX had previously developed with all their own investment (ie Elon Musk paid for it).

Turns out launching things into space is expensive. NASA has spent the equivalent of their entire budget for one year on SLS and will get nothing out of it

"SpaceX has been paid almost all of those billions by launching things into space for NASA and the Department of Defense."

Sounds like Skynet...

aTm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:17 pm SpaceX has been paid almost all of those billions by launching things into space for NASA and the Department of Defense.

NASA has spent almost $26 billion with Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Pratt and Whitney, Aerojet, Lockheed-Martin etc etc for SLS which it appears is likely to be cancelled, ie $26 billion for a final result of a handful of test launches. The writing has been on the wall so they have started development with a $4 billion contract with SpaceX for Starship development, which SpaceX had previously developed with all their own investment (ie Elon Musk paid for it).

Turns out launching things into space is expensive. NASA has spent the equivalent of their entire budget for one year on SLS and will get nothing out of it

Not as expensive as NASA would have you believe. If we cut off Israel and NASA, we'd all be swimming in coke and hookers but I guess Elon wants it all for himself.

aTm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:17 pm SpaceX has been paid almost all of those billions by launching things into space for NASA and the Department of Defense.

NASA has spent almost $26 billion with Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Pratt and Whitney, Aerojet, Lockheed-Martin etc etc for SLS which it appears is likely to be cancelled, ie $26 billion for a final result of a handful of test launches. The writing has been on the wall so they have started development with a $4 billion contract with SpaceX for Starship development, which SpaceX had previously developed with all their own investment (ie Elon Musk paid for it).

Turns out launching things into space is expensive. NASA has spent the equivalent of their entire budget for one year on SLS and will get nothing out of it

Yeah but yeah but, yeah but... aTm, those NASA guys get to retire with lifetime government pensions! They got something out of it.

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:16 pm

aTm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:17 pm SpaceX has been paid almost all of those billions by launching things into space for NASA and the Department of Defense.

NASA has spent almost $26 billion with Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Pratt and Whitney, Aerojet, Lockheed-Martin etc etc for SLS which it appears is likely to be cancelled, ie $26 billion for a final result of a handful of test launches. The writing has been on the wall so they have started development with a $4 billion contract with SpaceX for Starship development, which SpaceX had previously developed with all their own investment (ie Elon Musk paid for it).

Turns out launching things into space is expensive. NASA has spent the equivalent of their entire budget for one year on SLS and will get nothing out of it

Not as expensive as NASA would have you believe. If we cut off Israel and NASA, we'd all be swimming in coke and hookers but I guess Elon wants it all for himself.

Elon is not the problem. The problem is math.

Math says there are way too many people over the age of 65 in this country collecting social security checks and getting Medicare healthcare and not nearly enough younger people working to pay the taxes to fund all our old people. Our elderly didn't have enough children and nowhere near enough grandchildren. Its just math. We ran out of employed younger people and are not just left with a nation of old, retired, and migrant entitlement takers. That is where the trillions and trillions go. Not hookers and blow.

"That is where the trillions and trillions go. Not hookers and blow."

Pity...

Maybe so hedge. Maybe so.

What is an even bigger pity is that the necessary changes made to account for "math" will not happen in either of our lifetimes.

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:50 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:16 pm

aTm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:17 pm SpaceX has been paid almost all of those billions by launching things into space for NASA and the Department of Defense.

NASA has spent almost $26 billion with Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Pratt and Whitney, Aerojet, Lockheed-Martin etc etc for SLS which it appears is likely to be cancelled, ie $26 billion for a final result of a handful of test launches. The writing has been on the wall so they have started development with a $4 billion contract with SpaceX for Starship development, which SpaceX had previously developed with all their own investment (ie Elon Musk paid for it).

Turns out launching things into space is expensive. NASA has spent the equivalent of their entire budget for one year on SLS and will get nothing out of it

Not as expensive as NASA would have you believe. If we cut off Israel and NASA, we'd all be swimming in coke and hookers but I guess Elon wants it all for himself.

Elon is not the problem. The problem is math.

Math says there are way too many people over the age of 65 in this country collecting social security checks and getting Medicare healthcare and not nearly enough younger people working to pay the taxes to fund all our old people. Our elderly didn't have enough children and nowhere near enough grandchildren. Its just math. We ran out of employed younger people and are not just left with a nation of old, retired, and migrant entitlement takers. That is where the trillions and trillions go. Not hookers and blow.

It better start going to me or I'm going start cutting off heads. Of babies.

How did this country ever survive before 1980 when the Department of Education didn’t exist? Are we going to roll back the advances in education we’ve gained since then?…

It’s all crashing down and it’s glorious. It’s the only way to fix it. Every business turnaround specialist knows this.

Have you noticed the lack of protesting or rioting? Every protest report, lately, is “hundreds”. I guess the money stopped flowing.

Speaking of protest, a guy at the Superbowl who peacefully wore Palestine and Sudan colors, was arrested, identified, detained, inspected, and banned from going to any NFL event ever again. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength, brahs.

"It’s all crashing down and it’s glorious."

The leopards are gonna start eating faces shortly. Already have been, you just don't realize it...

Not one month in an it's already a clusterfuck. I'm enjoying this.

I know you are enjoying. Most of us are enjoying this. For me, this is Disneyworld every day. The "left" has no cards to play other than run to a judge and file and injunction on every action the POTUS takes. And the Supremes will simply overturn every single action and no one will be able to stop this. He'll just go faster and the dems will have to go faster asking for federal restraining orders.

There is no possible win-win with any of these actions. Its only win-lose. Even the lefties who can't stand where some of these tax dollars are headed aren't man enough or woman enough to side with Trump in stopping any of it because their PRIDE is stung. And that is the only thing that matters to them at this point, their pride. You can see that in all of hedge's posts, a prideful man who (in his mind) has LOST and there is nothing he can celebrate other than trying to get the judicial system to be assholes.

USAID helped fund that "ruse" that was the Russia-gate hoax.



$68,000 for dance classes in Wuhan China. The USAID money for Ukraine, money we thought might be for food, medicine, or weapons, no, they for flying Ukrainian models to fashion shoots in New York, London, and Paris.