The Goat Pen

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:05 am I was just laughing at the idea of Trump pardoning Hunter for any reason..

I think he would have or at least told the DOJ to make it go away.

He said he had no interest in going after Hillary because it wasn't a good move for the country.

There is nothing to be gained by his DOJ going after a small fish like Hunter. Hell, the whole thing was probably leverage against Biden by the Dems to begin with when he made it clear he didn't intend to honor his pledge to be a transitional president


again, you can hate Trump all you want but you have to agree that bringing in disruptors who intend to dismantle all of this is the best move for Washington and more importantly for the American people regardless which side of the political spectrum you fall on.

You have Dan Crenshaw among others defending insider trading for politicians because they claim they can't live on $174K a year and its insulting to them they can't make money. You have Eric Swalwell who dated a Chinese spy. Schiff, Pelosi, Schumer, Tlaib, McConnell, Activists judges, weaponized DEA, Rogue FBI - who are now talking heads on MSNBC. I could write pages of examples of corruption that is just blatant at this point.

the whole thing needs to be burned to the ground, and its not going to be a liberal democrat to do it. I'm not saying Trump will, but the team he wants to put together is a lot closer to doing it than any other political party out there. They are motivated to go after entrenched GOP as much as they are Democrats. The fact that both Rinos and Liberals are fighting with everything they have to stop these appointments tells you what you need to know. They are scared of losing power and money.

Wow...

I don't understand what happened to you. The guy who railed against government overreach on here for years is a puppet for big government control now.

There's a wide swath b/w government overreach and burn it all down. I've also learned a lot about burn it all down "revolutions" in the intervening years. They usually turn out far worse than what they overthrew. We'll see how you feel if and when shit starts to get burned down. I suspect that global economy isn't going to fare well in world in which American (relative) stability goes up in flames. I assume you have some assets and savings and some hope of social security that you paid into your whole life. I wonder if you'll be so sanguine when all that is engulfed in the conflagration you seem to crave so eagerly...

as opposed to losing >25% of my purchasing power thru inflation?

when you have people in power - not elected - who have the ability to influence elections, overthrow countries, use the justice department to attack political adversaries, profit illegally and are offended at the idea of you questioning their ability to do so and have no qualms about controlling the media and limiting free speech. We're dumping billions in one of the most corrupt countries in the world under the guise of fighting communism and everyone, I mean everyone, involved is getting major kickbacks from it AND willing to risk WWIII just to get rich while at the same time letting millions - populations of entire states - of illegals into the country without any vetting, and providing them with resources we don't provide our own citizens.

yea, burn it down - disrupt the whole system. Government spending isn't sustainable and hasn't been for some time. Its all moot when America is a Weimar Republic

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:06 am "Hunter is just a nepo-baby coke head who gets million dollar a year do-nothing jobs because his dad makes a phone call all the while, fucking and impregnating strippers. As a result, he is the "deep state" that is above the law and does not pay income taxes."

Don Jr. also...

I don’t think DJ got anyone other than his wife preggers. And was he ever on coke? Or guilty of tax fraud?

Also, I don't recall government overreach being a primary target of my rantings and ravings in here. Not saying I've never ranted and raved about it but I'd guess that it was mainly about drug laws and such. Oh well, I guess we'll be warming our hands by the bonfire soon enough. Actually, I'm pretty sure that Trump is too dumb to do as much damage as you seem to crave and also to venal to not accept "donations" from whatever monied interests care to grease his palms. I'm sure they're going to be lined up around the block, and none will be turned away. Drain the swamp indeed...

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:31 am as opposed to losing >25% of my purchasing power thru inflation?

when you have people in power - not elected - who have the ability to influence elections, overthrow countries, use the justice department to attack political adversaries, profit illegally and are offended at the idea of you questioning their ability to do so and have no qualms about controlling the media and limiting free speech. We dumping billions in one of the most corrupt countries in the world under the guise of fighting communism and everyone, I mean everyone, involved is getting major kickbacks from it AND willing to risk WWIII just to get rich.

yea, burn it down - disrupt the whole system. Government spending isn't sustainable and hasn't been for some time. Its all moot when America is a Weimar Republic

The main reason why those unelected bureaucrats have so much power is because legislators no longer write bills regulating anything to be signed into federal law. They are too paranoid that any bill they write might alienate their voting base and jeopardize their reelection. So if something needs to get fixed because there is a disturbance in the force, they spin up an agency and give those people all the regulatory power and hope and pray their guy gets elected potus because that is the one appointing directors who obey presidential policy.

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:44 am Also, I don't recall government overreach being a primary target of my rantings and ravings in here. Not saying I've never ranted and raved about it but I'd guess that it was mainly about drug laws and such. Oh well, I guess we'll be warming our hands by the bonfire soon enough. Actually, I'm pretty sure that Trump is too dumb to do as much damage as you seem to crave and also to venal to not accept "donations" from whatever monied interests care to grease his palms. I'm sure they're going to be lined up around the block, and none will be turned away. Drain the swamp indeed...

oh well, if its just drug law overreach and nothing else......

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:10 pm

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:44 am Also, I don't recall government overreach being a primary target of my rantings and ravings in here. Not saying I've never ranted and raved about it but I'd guess that it was mainly about drug laws and such. Oh well, I guess we'll be warming our hands by the bonfire soon enough. Actually, I'm pretty sure that Trump is too dumb to do as much damage as you seem to crave and also to venal to not accept "donations" from whatever monied interests care to grease his palms. I'm sure they're going to be lined up around the block, and none will be turned away. Drain the swamp indeed...

oh well, if its just drug law overreach and nothing else......

That was my thought. Oh well don’t do drugs

"oh well, if its just drug law overreach and nothing else......"

I didn't say nothing else. Dept. of Defense certainly needs to be overhauled but we both know that's the last thing that will get looked at (and it won't even be looked at). Talk about swamp pork. At any rate, I don't recall ever being a burn it all down guy, except maybe in my quasi anarchist days when I was a teenager, but I don't think I really put much thought into it...

Federal judges are unelected officials with lifetime appointments and a great deal of power. I guess they need to go too. Burn it all down!

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:31 am when you have people in power - not elected - who have the ability to influence elections, overthrow countries, use the justice department to attack political adversaries, profit illegally and are offended at the idea of you questioning their ability to do so and have no qualms about controlling the media and limiting free speech. We're dumping billions in one of the most corrupt countries in the world under the guise of fighting communism and everyone, I mean everyone, involved is getting major kickbacks from it AND willing to risk WWIII just to get rich while at the same time letting millions - populations of entire states - of illegals into the country without any vetting, and providing them with resources we don't provide our own citizens.

It's sausage-making. It's not pretty. It's not efficient, but it's the best means by which to bleed out a near peer-competitor without direct combat.

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:31 am yea, burn it down - disrupt the whole system. Government spending isn't sustainable and hasn't been for some time. Its all moot when America is a Weimar Republic

Burn it down and we will be a Weimar Republic-like joke followed by a ruinous dictator, but it will be worse than the Weimar Republic because we won't have a relatively benevolent western power to bankroll us with loans during the fun times...It will be total misery under the yoke of the Chicoms while the Chinks and Ruskies fight for control of Siberian / far eastern Russian resources and Europe deals with Russian aggression and ChiCom economic hegemony at the same time.

I don't think Madam eCat-Defarge gives a shit about any of that. Burn it down!!!

Denver and Colorado elected officials are officially backing off from their comments over the last few days about how they intended to have their law enforcement agencies "confront" federal military and ICE officials who very much intend to go to Colorado and round up and deport their illegal aliens. Trump can't work with any state and local officials since they very much intend to work against him. I think Trump learned it the hard way the last time (2017) he tried to work with local law enforcement when the Oakland City Mayor warned her entire city that Trump was coming for them. She defended her comments with tears in her eyes saying that was she did (warning the illegals) is no different than you flashing your headlights to warn speeders of a speed trap.

Did someone really ask if Don Jr. did coke?