The Goat Pen

Hacksaw wrote:Total denial of reality.

I've noticed that about you. You often don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

That was so cool the way you turned that around on me. No wonder you think you're so smart.

he got that from alinsky's rule for radicals - 10th Grade edition...

Hacksaw wrote:That was so cool the way you turned that around on me. No wonder you think you're so smart.

When compared to your simplistic platitudes?? yes.

This has been obvious for awhile:

Poll: 45 percent of Republicans believe Romney will be the nominee


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/poll ... 57564.html

I can't wait to see how Hack reacts once he finds out Jerry Sandusky is a republican. "Those kids asked for it!"

The part of the reality where you dinks seem to think that Ohio is some liberal bastion second only to California.

I wrote about Illinois, where I live, and therefore know something about.

All I know about Ohio is their citizens just voted to let the (mostly public-sector) unions run wild, like they have been. If Ohioans want to pay for extravagant pay and golden pension plans for governmental bureaucracies, that's their business.

EFZ

And happy Veterans Day to all you real Americans.

Owlman wrote:

Hacksaw wrote:That was so cool the way you turned that around on me. No wonder you think you're so smart.

When compared to your simplistic platitudes?? yes.

Heh...seriously, man, what are you, like, 12 years-old? Or is there another, more likely explanation?

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TheBigMook wrote:You guys are really living in your own little alternate reality over here aren't you?

Ummm..nope.

Public employee unions are foxes guarding the treasury.

Even Kennedy was against it.

Why do you hate Kennedy?

Heh...why is nobody in the gwarming cult ever held to account for their predictions that utterly fail?

Only 52 days left, get on with the dying already

Posted on November 10, 2011 by Anthony Watts

Back in January 2007, we were admonished:

“…you should remember this moment when you learned about this feedback loop-it is an existencial turning point in your life. “

Yes, I remember, only too well. In fact, here’s a reminder from 2007:

Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

Hydrate hypothesis illuminates growing climate change alarm

Compiled by John Stokes

A recent scientific theory called the "hydrate hypothesis" says that historical global warming cycles have been caused by a feedback loop, where melting permafrost methane clathrates (also known as "hydrates") spur local global warming, leading to further melting of clathrates and bacterial growth.

In other words, like western Siberia, the 400 billion tons of methane in permafrost hydrate will gradually melt, and the released methane will speed the melting. The effect of even a couple of billion tons of methane being emitted into the atmosphere each year would be catastrophic.

The "hydrate hypothesis" (if validated) spells the rapid onset of runaway catastrophic global warming. In fact, you should remember this moment when you learned about this feedback loop-it is an existencial turning point in your life.

By the way, the "hydrate hypothesis" is a weeks old scientific theory, and is only now being discussed by global warming scientists. I suggest you Google the term.

Now that most scientists agree human activity is causing the Earth to warm, the central debate has shifted to when we will pass the tipping point and be helpless to stop the runaway Global Warming.

There are enormous quantities of methane trapped in permafrost and under the oceans in ice-like structures called clathrates. The methane in Arctic permafrost clathrates is estimated at 400 billion tons.

Methane is more than 20 times as strong a greenhouse gas as CO2, and the atmosphere currently contains about 3.5 billion tons of the gas.

The highest temperature increase from global warming is occurring in the arctic regions-an area rich in these unstable clathrates. Simulations from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) show that over half the permafrost will thaw by 2050, and as much as 90 percent by 2100.

Peat deposits may be a comparable methane source to melting permafrost. When peat that has been frozen for thousands of years thaws, it still contains viable populations of bacteria that begin to convert the peat into methane and CO2.

Western Siberia is heating up faster than anywhere else in the world, having experienced a rise of some 3C in the past 40 years. The west Siberian peat bog could hold some 70 billion tonnes of methane. Local atmospheric levels of methane on the Siberian shelf are now 25 times higher than global concentrations.

By the way, warmer temperatures and longer growing seasons have caused microbial activity to increase dramatically in the soil around the world. This, in turn, means that much of the carbon long stored in the soil is now being released into the atmosphere.

Releases of methane from melting oceanic clathrates have caused severe environmental impacts in the past. The methane in oceanic clathrates has been estimated at 10,000 billion tons.

55 million years ago a global warming chain reaction (probably started by volcanic activity) melted oceanic clathrates. It was one of the most rapid and extreme global warming events in geologic history.

Humans appear to be capable of emitting CO2 in quantities comparable to the volcanic activity that started these chain reactions. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, burning fossil fuels releases more than 150 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes.

Methane in the atmosphere does not remain long, persisting for about 10 years before being oxidized to CO2 (a greenhouse gas that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years). Chronic methane releases oxidizing into CO2 contribute as much to warming as does the transient methane concentrations.

To summarize, human activity is causing the Earth to warm. Bacteria converts carbon in the soil into greenhouse gasses, and enormous quantities are trapped in unstable clathrates. As the earth continues to warm, permafrost clathrates will thaw; peat and soil microbial activity will dramatically increase; and, finally, vast oceanic clathrates will melt. This global warming chain reaction has happened in the past.

Atmospheric concentrations of CO2 rose by a record amount over the past year. It is the third successive year in which they have increased sharply. Scientists are at a loss to explain why the rapid rise has taken place, but fear the trend could be the first sign of runaway global warming.

Runaway Global Warming promises to literally burn-up agricultural areas into dust worldwide by 2012, causing global famine, anarchy, diseases, and war on a global scale as military powers including the U.S., Russia, and China, fight for control of the Earth's remaining resources.

Over 4.5 billion people could die from Global Warming related causes by 2012, as planet Earth accelarates into a greed-driven horrific catastrophe.

why is nobody in the gwarming cult ever held to account for their predictions that utterly fail?

Um...because they're not interested in acknowledging any facts that might conflict with what they want to believe?

...just a guess.

Heh...seriously, man, what are you, like, 12 years-old

Mirror, man. Look in the mirror.

Hey, here are some more really smart people who the police help make just a little bit smarter...

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RE: Sardis' pic above:

It would kinda cool to have a Mack Daddy back in the White House. The mirrors that Clinton had installed on the ceiling of the Oval Office are probably still there.

Hacksaw wrote:Hey, here are some more really smart people who the police help make just a little bit smarter...

Wow, the cops who were trying to get the protesters to move were incompetent. They didn't do ANYTHING you are supposed to do. That video could be used in prison staff training how NOT to move a defiant crowd using only batons.

Professor Tiger wrote:

Hacksaw wrote:Hey, here are some more really smart people who the police help make just a little bit smarter...

Wow, the cops who were trying to get the protesters to move were incompetent. They didn't do ANYTHING you are supposed to do. That video could be used in prison staff training how NOT to move a defiant crowd using only batons.

What makes you think they were trying to move the crowd? Looked to me like they were trying to keep them in a particular area. Some of the "protesters" got a little too far out of that area and they moved those specific people back. Looked pretty effective to me. I guess they could have swung some overhand shots to some skulls. Was that what you were hoping for?

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