The Goat Pen

• 2004 121,000,000 ballot cast
• 2008 129,000,000 ballots cast
• 2012 127,000,000 ballots cast
• 2016 129,000,000 ballots cast
• 2020 155,000,000 ballots cast
• 2024 129,000,000 ballots cast

2020 election... FRAUD

we are not going to come together as a nation. There is no coming together here.

Where are you getting 15 million extra votes from? Biden got 81 million, Kamala already has 71 million and California hasn't finished counting yet. Kamala will probably end up with 5-7 million less than Biden. Why did you lie, IB?

hedge wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:51 pm Where are you getting 15 million extra votes from? Biden got 81 million, Kamala already has 71 million and California hasn't finished counting yet. Kamala will probably end up with 5-7 million less than Biden. Why did you lie, IB?

I got the numbers from the youtube I posted which came out 24 hours after the election was over. Checking wiki now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Unit ... l_election

Okay, I see your point but these votes are fraud. You keep counting? Why? Why aren't you done in California? You are not done, because you are stuffing the ballots. Its fraud. Pretty much every other state not named California was done counting less than 24 hours after the election. This is just fraud. And you don't care (no one cares) because the election is already decided in the other 49 states and no matter how many ballots are stuffed in California to fraudulently alter the popular vote, the outcome of the election as to who wins is already cast in stone. So the vote challengers aren't there anymore the way they were everywhere ELSE the first 24 hours of the election.

Trump got all 73 million of his votes 24 hours after the election. This 71 mill for Harris, is fucking fraud hedge.

eCat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:04 am Holy Shit..all in 100%

Fantastic. Outstanding. Years overdue. About bloody time.

And Donald Trump Jr. for Attorney General to oversee the entire project. No more Jeff Sessions-type sellouts. The restoration of free speech one of the two most important tasks for his presidency. The other is ending the John-call girl relationship between the Democrats and the DOJ/FBI/IC.

"Okay, I see your point but these votes are fraud. You keep counting? Why? Why aren't you done in California? You are not done, because you are stuffing the ballots. Its fraud."

You're moving the goalposts. You use the final 2020 tally and compare it to the day-after 2024 count to "prove" that the 2020 tally was a fraud, but then you claim that any votes counted after the day after the election are fraudulent and shouldn't count. You're comparing apples to oranges. You're basically just claiming fraud with zero evidence, regardless of how many sentences you print bolded and underlined (did that make you feel better doing that IB? Go fuck yourself). Claims made without evidence, as yours surely is, can be dismissed without evidence, which I'm doing now. You're dismissed, faggoth...

an example of why free speech is so important on social media going on right now

Mitch McConnell wants to hand pick the Senate Leader in choosing either Thorn or Coryn, both loyal to him and wanting to make sure no recess appointments are made so they can either cancel or slow walk any candidate they don't want by Trump - these could take as long as 2 years meaning positions couldn't be filled until the mid term elections. Its being reported the Senators are wanting to vote in secret because they are scared they will be primaried if they vote for McConnell's guys instead of Trump's guy. They are right. A list of preliminary votes was leaked online.

Social Media , especially twitter prior to Musk would be directed to tamp this down, especially the leaked list, and prevent the spread of this information to the public and most people would not even know its happening, they'd just be stunned to hear the new Senate leader was John Coryn and when they reach out to their state Senator, he or she would lie about their vote.

But that isn't happening - one senator is on the record saying that he feels "bullied" that voters are reaching out to him telling him to vote for the person they want, not who McConnel wants - and that's because this is blowing up on social media. People are seeing this in real time and are reacting to it.

Imagine a Senator saying he feels bullied because his constituents are reaching out to him voicing their opinion about how they want to govern them. For some Senators, the spotlight of human interaction on social media has them switching their vote because they are being ratio'd.

Social Media democracy in action

"Social Media democracy in action"

Also known as mob rule...

says the man pushing popular vote over electoral college

the problem with your statement is you're ok with it if you're part of the mob

hedge wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:37 pm "Social Media democracy in action"

Also known as mob rule...

What was more dangerous hedge, 100,000,000,000 posts on social media challenging the wit and science of one Dr Fauci OR a 20 year old in Pennsylvania with a rifle on top of a shed?

100,000,000 posts on social media < 1 vote
1,000,000,000 posts on social media < 1 gun
10,000,000,000 posts on social media rules... not one person.

There is no power there as there is no authority there. Voting is authority. If you want to push back against the democracy in action on social media, make a better argument on social media. Your way is to Remove/Cancel/eliminate posts on social media because you are not smart enough to make a better argument. That makes you an ignorant, authoritarian, pussy.

eCat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:43 pm says the man pushing popular vote over electoral college

the problem with your statement is you're ok with it if you're part of the mob

The problem with the California-rules-ALL argument for the popular vote, is we don't have a POTUS with that rule. We have a POTPOC, President of the people of California. You have neutered the states. The states are now powerless. And powerless states will never remain united. The only way the states are "united" (as well they should be) is if the states have ALL the power to pick who runs the executive branch of the fed. NOT people. There is no other way. You just want to amend the Constitution rules because you can't win the with the current rules.

What are you, the SEC and B1G-T(10,11,whoops18)N and the USA is the NCAA?

Scott Galloway on exactly WHY the democrats lost both the electoral college AND the popular vote.

Scott Galloway wrote:If your (30 year old) son isn't in a relationship, can't afford to buy a home, is anxious, is depressed, are the rights of Palestinians, territorial sovereignty of Ukraine, or Trans rights, does that even register on your (political) screen?

eCat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:43 pm says the man pushing popular vote over electoral college

the problem with your statement is you're ok with it if you're part of the mob

I'm not pushing for the popular vote but if it's good enough for every other election in this country it should be good enough for the president. Also you might want to brush up on what type of government we have, Mr. Civics. I'll give you a hint: We're a republic. That means the public doesn't vote or really have a say in every decision that's made unless you live in a state that can get a referendum on the ballot, and even then it's very limited and difficult to do (I'll give you another civics lesson, that last part is by design so that the fickle public isn't swinging back and forth wildly, as mobs are wont to do (like on, say, twitter)). If you don't like how the representative you voted for is behaving, you get your opportunity to make your voice heard at the next election and vote them out. But I guess you don't like that system anymore now that you've got the aptly named twitter on your side. I guess it was inevitable: 250 years of democratic republicanism traded in seemingly overnight for government by twitter. Awesome...

thanks for educating me, its not like I have read we are a republic not a democracy 150 times in the last 25 years.

Here is your mob rule action. Organized movements of people tell a sitting senator that if he doesn't act on the will of the people he will be primaried. In this case its asking for a senate leader who will act on behalf of the mandate sent. You aren't saying anything different than what I'm saying - but now a platform like twitter gives direct access to a politician for every citizen. Its up to the Senator (or any politician) to decide if they act on that or not and if there will be consequences for their actions in the next election.

Oh and by the way - it worked. Thune and Coryn now say they will allow recess appointments if they are voted into the Senate because they were overwhelmed with conversative voices telling them they better not pull some RINO bullshit behind the scenes. Now I personally believing they have no intention on following thru on their statements but at any rate, it shows the approach worked.

oh well - 250 years down the drain . wow, the drama you invoke because the system works as intended.

the beauty of this is just like that dick pic you sent to a girl 15 years ago, the internet has a long memory, and thru a platform like twitter, like minded people are connected and can communicate effectively. The idea of politicians having a secret ballot to nominate a politician they know the public will not support pushing an agenda against a voting mandate won't fly anymore because within hours of it getting out, potentially millions of people will know about it and can act on it.

Its a wonderful thing and thank god corrupt politicians that wanted to censor it and the dumbfucks that supported it lost thanks to good old fashion capitalism.

another great thing about this is it will work for liberals as well, and when it happens you won't say a damn word about mob rule or that we're a republic in a rebuke against it.

Wallace is leaving CNN saying streaming and podcasting is where its as in news media consumption

eCat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:04 am Holy Shit..all in 100%

I wonder if ChatGP wrote that.

Tom Holman. The PERFECT border czar.

Gov. Whitmer announced that she will oppose Trump with all their might in Michigan. Trump just won in Michigan. This would be the ideal place to begin the deportations. Start by mobilizing the MI National Guard right out from under her, to help the big undertaking, just like Kennedy did to Wallace.

"thanks for educating me, its not like I have read we are a republic not a democracy 150 times in the last 25 years."

Well at the very least, I'm glad you're back on this thread after avoiding it completely for the past 6 months. I expect Crotch to show up any day now, on the heels of Prof. Glad to have the rats back on the ship...

The Prof Returns wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:25 am Gov. Whitmer announced that she will oppose Trump with all their might in Michigan. Trump just won in Michigan. This would be the ideal place to begin the deportations. Start by mobilizing the MI National Guard right out from under her, to help the big undertaking, just like Kennedy did to Wallace.

starting in Dearborn