The Goat Pen

This war doesnt have anything to do with Biden or his son. It has to do with Putin and Europe and the war certainly predated Zelensky, its been going on for ten years. The war is over who is going to dominate Eastern Europe, Russia or “the West”

We’re helping so much mainly because our Allies in Eastern Europe (all the ones who used to be behind the Iron Curtain) are spoiling to fight the Russians IMO

Send them jets. Fuck Russia.

Who's going to fly them?

A bunch of warmongers on this board. We never learn that we can't defend everyone.

They don't have pilots?

aTm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:54 pm

eCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:54 pm I'm not pissed at Zelensky…

But like almost everyone else who complains, you brought him up?

the man made a speech asking for our help on the floor of senate while his flag waved in background

I think its a valid point of contention, but I'm not pissed at him. I just don't think Ukraine is worth the risk, and ultimately the price we are going to pay.

hedge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:32 pm "and its not beyond the realm of possibility its due to the business relationship that Joe and Hunter have with Ukraine"

Good lord...

so you're saying that Joe and Hunter aren't corrupt enough to throw their interest in the US funneling billions in blank check money to Ukraine?
they're above that?

I guarantee you there is profit in this for Hunter in some way. He's been working the Russian invasion going back to 2016

aTm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:03 pm This war doesnt have anything to do with Biden or his son. It has to do with Putin and Europe and the war certainly predated Zelensky, its been going on for ten years. The war is over who is going to dominate Eastern Europe, Russia or “the West”

We’re helping so much mainly because our Allies in Eastern Europe (all the ones who used to be behind the Iron Curtain) are spoiling to fight the Russians IMO

You think Germany was spoiling to have their source of fuel reduced and have to build a reliance on American natural gas further bolstering the Petrol dollar? They were bullied into this, especially after the Nord Stream pipeline

"A bunch of warmongers on this board. We never learn that we can't defend everyone."

This isn't about defending Ukraine. Or not mainly, anyway...

"I guarantee you there is profit in this for Hunter in some way."

Seek help...

eCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:16 pm

aTm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:03 pm This war doesnt have anything to do with Biden or his son. It has to do with Putin and Europe and the war certainly predated Zelensky, its been going on for ten years. The war is over who is going to dominate Eastern Europe, Russia or “the West”

We’re helping so much mainly because our Allies in Eastern Europe (all the ones who used to be behind the Iron Curtain) are spoiling to fight the Russians IMO

You think Germany was spoiling to have their source of fuel reduced and have to build a reliance on American natural gas further bolstering the Petrol dollar? They were bullied into this, especially after the Nord Stream pipeline

Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Czechia, and to a lesser extent Slovakia are the countries Im talking about. The rest of Europe has essentially dragged Germany along digging their heels

hedge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:16 pm "I guarantee you there is profit in this for Hunter in some way."

Seek help...

Agreed. This is getting weird.

a year from now it will come out that Hunter profited from this in some way

and both of you will just rationalize it with your standard bullshit as it being meaningless

A year from now your house will be raided.

whoever wrote this story is aspiring to move on to novels

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An armed robbery was reportedly foiled Saturday night at a Phoenix gas station by a man keen to fill his tank, not empty his wallet.

The head clerk of the Sinclair gas station at 12th Street and Highland Avenue told KTVK that the man targeted in the foiled robbery is a regular customer, known to be polite and kind: "He don't bother nobody. He come to the pump, fills gas, drives off. That's it."

This regular customer, who has not been named, was allegedly confronted at the pump around 6:30 p.m. by 24-year-old Aaron Duwan Frazier Jr., reported CBS 5.

According to police, Frazier attempted to rob the man at gunpoint. The gas was unleaded, but the customer's response to the criminal threat was not. The would-be victim reportedly went to the back of his vehicle, armed himself, then fired several shots, striking Frazier.

"I heard three gunshots and then ... he went on the floor," said the head clerk. "I went to the door and saw that happening and I called 911."

"a year from now it will come out that Huner profited from this in some way"

Yeah, just like a year from now we're going to get indisputable evidence that the the election really was stolen from Trump...

case in point

Well, we're past the second year since that claim was made and still not a shred of evidence supporting it. You'd think in over 2 years they'd come up with something, but they haven't. Kinda like the Durham "investigation." Ironically enough, the Durham investigation did come up with some dirt on Trump (well, I guess that's not ironic, just expected), but not much else...

Newsweek no less


https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-scien ... on-1776630

Is that guy even a doctor??

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Homeland Security, and several other law enforcement agencies had the intelligence necessary to stop the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack before it ever began but failed to take adequate action in time, according to a top insurrection investigator and former federal prosecutor.

Tim Heaphy, who served as chief investigative counsel for the House Select Committee investigating the siege, told NBC News in an exclusive interview this week that the panel ultimately downplayed the agencies' culpability in its final 845-page report released in December.

Lawmakers who investigated the attack emphatically laid the blame on Donald Trump, outlining how the former president sparked the violent riot with his repeated lies about the 2020 presidential election.

Heaphy told NBC he doesn't discount the committee's Trump-centric conclusion, but said the panel failed to stress the outsized role law enforcement played in allowing the insurrection to unfold.

"Law enforcement had a very direct role in contributing to the security failures that led to the violence," he told the outlet.

It wasn't a lack of pertinent intelligence that led to violence on Jan. 6, but a failure to respond accordingly to an array of online leads and tips ahead of the attack, according to Heaphy, who cited findings from the committee's Blue Team, a group of investigators specifically focused on the role of the FBI, DHS, Secret Service, Capitol Police, Department of Defense, and Washington, D.C. police that day.

The Blue Team's findings were never included in any of the committee's 10 televised hearings, Heaphy told NBC, and the panel's final report downplayed the team's findings, saying law enforcement couldn't have predicted Trump's behavior.

what a shock