The Goat Pen

eCat wrote:

sardis wrote:I've never quite followed Fast and Furious because I never thought it that important. I know with Reagan it was arms for hostages. What was sought with the ATF weapons? Information? Rogue agents wanting money?

And I don't want no shitbaggery Google link from you, ATM...

the assumption is that by flooding the Mexican cartels at the border with weapons, it would result in greater pressure to push thru anti-second amendment legislation. Its Obama's back door approach to the supreme's ruling against various gun control laws in place at the local levels.

I don't know if anyone remembers but a few years ago I was on here railing against news reports that Mexicans were buying full auto machine guns from American gun dealers on the border which I felt was a lie. Turns out some of those guns came directly from the BATF dumping them. A border patrol guard was killed with one of them by a Mexican cartel drug smuggler and the whole operation blew up when they traced the gun. Holder has been playing hard ball since he was caught in a lie about if and when he knew of the operation. I now believe those news reports were coming from the BATF and the Obama administration to create a public perception of guns sales leading to innocent Americans dying and clamp down on assault weapons.

I don't know if Obama is involved or not but who would be surprised if he was, and if he is, Holder is now in the undesirable position of attempting to save his ass or the presidents.

For whatever reason some leading Republicans have backed off the contempt proceedings. I'm not sure why other than perhaps they are hoping that if Obama does get re-elected then they will have a Nixon-Watergate situation on their hands to roll him out with.

innocentbystander wrote:

Cletus wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:I have no authority. I offer suggestions, not commandments.

You are the appointed counselor. You are the authority figure in the relationship. And that is a huge problem.

You don't know what you are talking about. You don't know me. You don't know how I counsel. You don't know how many of us there are in the room at one time. You don't know what counseling is if you think I act as an authority figure. And you apparently don't know what a huge problem is.

Cletus wrote:I just read the thread from May and it's very clear that you, fueled by your idiotic religion, are the huge problem.

eCat wrote:its not so whacky

"“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Barack Obama reportedly told Sarah Brady regarding gun control. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

This interesting bit of news was reported in an April 11, 2011 Washington Post Lifestyle section story about Obama’s gun-control and regulatory policy wonk Steve Croley. Toward the end of the article the writer, Jason Horowitz, mentions a March 30 meeting between Jim and Sarah Brady and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney during which the President “dropped in.”

Horowitz quotes Sarah Brady relating how President Obama gave his personal assurance that he and his administration were working hard on a gun-control agenda. Brady reported that Obama then told them about advancing the agenda “under the radar.”"

sardis wrote:Cletus would round up all the Christians to the Roman Coliseum if he could...

eCat wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:IB. What experience do you have with divorce? She leave you because you drank too much or she had a thing for the pool boy?

shit I should be doing divorce counseling then.

innocentbystander wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:IB. What experience do you have with divorce? She leave you because you drank too much or she had a thing for the pool boy?

I've never been divorced. That said, there has been way too many divorces in my family (aunts, uncles, brother's-in-law, etc.) So I talked to them and I read a lot of books. I pull in as much information as I can. That is the best I can do.

hedge wrote:IB is fulfilling his calling in here very astutely...

innocentbystander wrote:

hedge wrote:"A near bottomless capacity for vengeance over the least, or even imagined, slights."

I certainly feel this towards you, IB...

I don't care.

Jungle Rat wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:I've never been divorced. That said, there has been way too many divorces in my family (aunts, uncles, brother's-in-law, etc.) So I talked to them and I read a lot of books. I pull in as much information as I can. That is the best I can do.

So you have never been in a divorce situation where the wife leaves for whatever reason? Dude, I'm sorry, and I thank you for your concern about my mom on my thread

Jungle Rat wrote:but I have to be honest. What fucking world do you live in? Have you sat next to your divorce attorney listening to stories about you so far out there your head is about to explode?

Gator by God's Grace wrote:

hedge wrote:IB is fulfilling his calling in here very astutely...

apparently his calling is to administer a beatdown to Hedge the likes of which he hasnt seen since the days of Words...

sardis wrote:Cletus would round up all the Christians to the Roman Coliseum if he could...

innocentbystander wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:I've never been divorced. That said, there has been way too many divorces in my family (aunts, uncles, brother's-in-law, etc.) So I talked to them and I read a lot of books. I pull in as much information as I can. That is the best I can do.

So you have never been in a divorce situation where the wife leaves for whatever reason? Dude, I'm sorry, and I thank you for your concern about my mom on my thread

you are welcome

Jungle Rat wrote:but I have to be honest. What fucking world do you live in? Have you sat next to your divorce attorney listening to stories about you so far out there your head is about to explode?

Not a divorce attorney but a defense one, yes. He was there to help me get a bullshit restraining order quashed. You see I was intimately involved with a woman who was BPD and yes, I had to listen to stories about me so far out there my head was about to explode.

I won. I was lucky. Cost me $700 for being intimately involved with a Person of the Lie. I got out of that one cheap. I didn't lose half my life savings, nor was I prevented from seeing my kids, nor did I ever spend a day in jail. But (had she not showed me her true colors before I put a ring on her finger) I was damn close to marrying her and (had I done that) I would have eventually had all those things that happened to you, happen to me.

I was lucky.

I know how hard it is Rat. I know how brutal this society can be for men (particularly those with children) who choose to marry the wrong woman. I see this shit every single week. Thats why I try to help them before they face the same fate far too many of you here on this forum had to go through.

If you lived near me, I would probably ask you to help me.

Jungle Rat wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:So you have never been in a divorce situation where the wife leaves for whatever reason? Dude, I'm sorry, and I thank you for your concern about my mom on my thread

you are welcome

Jungle Rat wrote:but I have to be honest. What fucking world do you live in? Have you sat next to your divorce attorney listening to stories about you so far out there your head is about to explode?

Not a divorce attorney but a defense one, yes. He was there to help me get a bullshit restraining order quashed. You see I was intimately involved with a woman who was BPD and yes, I had to listen to stories about me so far out there my head was about to explode.

I won. I was lucky. Cost me $700 for being intimately involved with a Person of the Lie. I got out of that one cheap. I didn't lose half my life savings, nor was I prevented from seeing my kids, nor did I ever spend a day in jail. But (had she not showed me her true colors before I put a ring on her finger) I was damn close to marrying her and (had I done that) I would have eventually had all those things that happened to you, happen to me.

I was lucky.

I know how hard it is Rat. I know how brutal this society can be for men (particularly those with children) who choose to marry the wrong woman. I see this shit every single week. Thats why I try to help them before they face the same fate far too many of you here on this forum had to go through.

If you lived near me, I would probably ask you to help me.

So is that a "Yes" You have never been in divorce situation? Then honestly, you have no grounds to give advice to others about divorce. Sorry