The Goat Pen

eCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:41 am He probably would have won but he'd never get the nomination

The flyover states conservatives are not going to let a RINO moderate get the nomination. That's done with, I think forever. Romney , Ryan, Boehner, etc are essentially a progressives to them

I hold Palin accountable for ruining the Tea Party. People don't remember the tea party prior to her but it was the real libertarian wing of the Party. Essentially Massie and Ron Paul represent it today.

hedge wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:40 am I'm not sure when the democratic party usurped the mantle of "party of the elites" from the repubs, but it happened in the blink of an eye. What's funny to me is all those people who were loyal repubs for decades (like Prof, for instance), voting for the "elite" candidates and verily thinking of themselves as such b/c of their party affiliation, now they're trying to pass themselves off as salt of the earth types, just the good ol common man. Which is true of pretty much everyone, of course, but it is odd to note the change in self-perception of a large bloc of the republican party these days.

Of course, there's still the old guard, William F. Buckley wing, many of whom are still in power (and have money, unlike this new breed of repubs), which is why I still say the repub party - as a unified party - is imploding. I can't see the old guard repubs flocking to the democratic party the way the old southern democrats, virtually in one election cycle, switched over to the republican party in the late 60's (I blame the hippies and of course the uppity negroes who were in the process of claiming all sorts of basic human rights, that was a bridge too far for a very large segment of those old southern yellow dog democrats), but given the current state of affairs, the center (if there is one) of the republican party cannot hold...

hedge wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:51 am

eCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:41 am He probably would have won but he'd never get the nomination

The flyover states conservatives are not going to let a RINO moderate get the nomination. That's done with, I think forever. Romney , Ryan, Boehner, etc are essentially a progressives to them

I hold Palin accountable for ruining the Tea Party. People don't remember the tea party prior to her but it was the real libertarian wing of the Party. Essentially Massie and Ron Paul represent it today.