The Goat Pen

" So, what you have is this concentration of interests and you wind up with portion polygamy where 10% of the men get 90% of the (female) attention"

I'm glad I was in that 10%. Sucks to be you, though...

A speaker from the Federal Reserve spoke to us a few weeks ago and said that, for the first time since WWII, over 50% of 18-29 year old males live with their parents. That’s even with college attending kids being backed out of the numbers.

Nice

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sardis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:23 pm A speaker from the Federal Reserve spoke to us a few weeks ago and said that, for the first time since WWII, over 50% of 18-29 year old males live with their parents. That’s even with college attending kids being backed out of the numbers.

mine is one of them

I'm reaching the end of my benevolence on the matter

As long as he's got stories about leg shaking psychos, he stays...

He's gonna have to start contributing more than just sex stories

Sounds like you're holding out for video...

heh

and therapy

Gun people ain't gonna be happy. I think.

https://apnews.com/article/gun-violence ... ce=Twitter

"Amazing phone call" was a bit disturbing. He has serious issues with empathy and prioritizing shit.

Zelensky is drunk.

eCat wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:44 pm

sardis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:23 pm A speaker from the Federal Reserve spoke to us a few weeks ago and said that, for the first time since WWII, over 50% of 18-29 year old males live with their parents. That’s even with college attending kids being backed out of the numbers.

mine is one of them

I'm reaching the end of my benevolence on the matter

My youngest kid is a junior business major in a local college and the least ambitious of my three. He has an aversion to work and tried to weasel out of getting a summer job until July when I figured his game and made him go to work. When he graduates, he will most likely not be assertive enough to get employment. Since he is the only kid left, he has the whole finished basement to himself that has a kitchen, bathroom, a separate bedroom, big screen tv, etc. I told my wife, if he is still hanging around after graduation, i'm charging him $1,000 a month. She thought that was too much, but with him getting utilities, laundry, wi-fi, food, car insurance, phone bill, etc. it seems reasonable to me. Wife thinks it should only be $300 because mom's somehow have soft spots for their sons. Even if he works 40 hours at fast food, he can make $1,000 a month easily.

Make it 2k and he's gotta cut the grass.

I'm looking forward to the economic boom the post WW2 America created.

sardis wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:23 am

eCat wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:44 pm

sardis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:23 pm A speaker from the Federal Reserve spoke to us a few weeks ago and said that, for the first time since WWII, over 50% of 18-29 year old males live with their parents. That’s even with college attending kids being backed out of the numbers.

mine is one of them

I'm reaching the end of my benevolence on the matter

My youngest kid is a junior business major in a local college and the least ambitious of my three. He has an aversion to work and tried to weasel out of getting a summer job until July when I figured his game and made him go to work. When he graduates, he will most likely not be assertive enough to get employment. Since he is the only kid left, he has the whole finished basement to himself that has a kitchen, bathroom, a separate bedroom, big screen tv, etc. I told my wife, if he is still hanging around after graduation, i'm charging him $1,000 a month. She thought that was too much, but with him getting utilities, laundry, wi-fi, food, car insurance, phone bill, etc. it seems reasonable to me. Wife thinks it should only be $300 because mom's somehow have soft spots for their sons. Even if he works 40 hours at fast food, he can make $1,000 a month easily.

$300 a month is what we are going to start charging, but he also has to be responsible for car insurance which is $108 a month. In addition he is expected to contribute labor around the house.

As soon as the psycho girlfirend thing runs its course with a time limit of our family vacation in October, he is going to have a come to Jesus with me and his mother.

The bigger looming issue for him is he will be 26 in about 18 months and I have to drop him from health insurance.

He has a pretty healthy savings going, and I'm going to take that $300 a month and put it in savings for him. By the time he is 26, he should have about $60K saved.

My hope is we can find a fixer upper and let him buy his own home with a minimal monthly payment, and I'll help him get it right. Admittedly that seems a bit too much responsibility for him at the moment. Changing the oil on his car is about this biggest adult achievement now. I have a plan for meaningful employment for him but he is going to have to commit to it.

We'll see.

You'll be rehabbing that entire house by yourself.

Maybe it's different with girls. The oldest got a job in Chapel Hill immediately after graduating and has held one ever since. The youngest moved back in with us for a year (after she graduated from USC) while she got her master's degree in social work at ECU (about a 45 minute commute). She had hooked up with her future husband by then and he basically lived with us too. It was actually kinda nice having them around and I think they wanted to get their own place more than we wanted them to leave. Both of them ended up buying houses with their fiances about a year before they actually got married. I guess grandkids are next...

its just how motivated the kids are

admittedly, I have messed up as a parent.

My kids have never wanted for anything, and I suspect much of that is a reaction to how I was raised - and unfortunately they don't know what its like to have to choose between paying the rent , getting your car fixed or having real food in the fridge. Growing up with nights where we didn't have meat for dinner and having to work any job you could just to have enough money to pay for school lunches motivates you. I knew why my ass was going to college and I wasn't going to fuck around and waste it.

They think this free ride lasts forever, that dad and mom will be 50'ish wage earners for another 25 years until they figure it out.

I tell my son the 40 year old version of himself is going to hate the 24 year old because the 24 year old is fucking him over big time, but he doesn't understand no matter how many times I explain it.

The daughter is on track to graduate with only 2 classes left, taking them at a local community college but the world is a harsh place and she has no desire to go into it. She just wants to stay at home, sketch and have her therapist tell her everything is going to be alright @$234 a session.

I can relate to all of that.

My youngest just turned 26. He told UPS to kiss his ass a couple of months ago. Went to work sick, puked a couple of times, told them he was sick and was going home, and they told him “if you leave, don’t come back”. He replied “bet” and walked out.

Just as well, since his paycheck each week went to booze, and weed, and his bookie…

Shit’s about to change…

Oh, and I also have a 35 year old stepdaughter living here as well…with her 10 year old and 1 year old sons…and they are total dependents. The baby daddy is a crack head that contributes nothing and is in jail more often than not, and she hasn’t worked since before the 1 year old was born. No job, no car, no money, and no motivation to get any of those, except a car…which she expects us to help her get.

FML