The Goat Pen

eCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:10 pm I can't imagine a president of the United States calling out people who identify with MAGA as a threat to democracy.

That was incredibly stupid and divisive, and worse, it makes the progressives, who already have an overinflated sense of self importance believe they have the moral high ground.

its was a mistake of arrogance and frustration just to try to gain momentum for a political election.

for some people however its throwing gasoline on a fire.

Biden acts like its 20,000 people

Trump was filling up stadiums for rally's all over America. And we've got a president in office just shy of proclaiming those people are Nazis.

eCat, I think the left has ALWAYS hated the people on the right. They HATE the people. And when I say hate, what I mean is the people on the left very quietly wishes that the people on the right would hurry up and DIE already for no other reason than to stop voting for the other guy. The people on the right may have felt that the left hates their ideas, but that is not enough. The left does not just hate the ideas of the right, they hate the people who believe in them. This seething hatred may not have been well known on the right, but it is now. At least Biden was being honest about his hatred of half the country, an honesty that Aaron Sorkin demonstrated 21 years ago in this scene:

Ainsley Hayes wrote:You don't like the people.

This fictitious scene (and this reality that is President Biden) is hard for the people on the right (like myself) because as a conservative, I like people. I like the people on the left even though they hate me and wish for my death. I know Biden wants me dead, dead. Afterall, I don't pay income taxes anymore so what use am I to him? Now, I like to talk to people on the left and all they do is give me a "talk to the hand" sign. They don't want to talk. The left just wants authority and power to make decisions for me without consulting me or anyone on the right. And when I use my power (to vote) to stop them, they want me to die. The left does not want to communicate with the right. They want the right to change or die.

I really think it might be a good idea for the states in this country to get a divorce from one another. This isn't working. We don't need or want another civil war, but Governor Abbott dumping the illegals (that Biden dumps on him) in Chicago, DC, and NYC, and then Biden refuses to even mention it (because that involves a dialogue that he refuses to engage with a person that Biden wishes would hurry up and die) I mean, we are pretty much done here. We are not talking to one another, let's just bag it.

Speaking of hurry up and dying.

Hurry up.

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Happy Labor Day bitches. Tens of thousands of people fought and died for you to have a 5 day work week, workplace protections, decent pay, unions, and the ability to go on strike. Been largely written out of our history because the corporations including modern day robber barons like Bezos and Musk don't want you remembering what we went through. All societies are built on the backs of the workers, which neither party today gives a shit about.

Get a job you freeloader.

Keep eating Biden's asshole, you douche.

This beatdown of Rat by Tree is brutal.

Shut your fat face.

"That was incredibly stupid and divisive, and worse"

Yeah, I miss Trump, the great unifier...

"Tell you what hedge, explain the difference between Sweden and Venezuela? Explain why socialism may work in one but at the other socialist paradise, the people are eating pigeons and zoo animals?"

Too easy. One is real socialism, the other is a quasi dictatorship that fools like you pretend is socialism just so you can criticize socialism. Duh...

"I like the people on the left even though they hate me and wish for my death."

You really are a moron. How in the fuck can you like someone who hates you and wants you dead? I really don't even believe that you can love people like that in the bullshit christian sense of "loving one's enemies," but at least that's some spiritual supernatural mumbo jumbo that is fairly meaningless anyway. But to sincerely claim you "like" people that hate you and want you dead? You really are a mental midget...

"Bidens speech with the Marines in the background was uncalled for and antagonistic. He's just trying to pick a fight."

Biden: I’m not talking about all Republicans, just the fascist ones who want to destroy democracy.

Republicans: How DARE you attack all of us like this!

Tree wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:36 pmAll societies are built on the backs of the workers, which neither party today gives a shit about.

yes, that is correct

hedge wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:21 am "Tell you what hedge, explain the difference between Sweden and Venezuela? Explain why socialism may work in one but at the other socialist paradise, the people are eating pigeons and zoo animals?"

Too easy. One is real socialism, the other is a quasi dictatorship that fools like you pretend is socialism just so you can criticize socialism. Duh...

no hedge

one has 25 year old grandparents. that should shock you back into reality. that is all I should have to say.

when your population has 25 year old grandparents in it, it does not matter what kind of economic system you use.

hedge wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:29 am "I like the people on the left even though they hate me and wish for my death."

You really are a moron. How in the fuck can you like someone who hates you and wants you dead? I really don't even believe that you can love people like that in the bullshit christian sense of "loving one's enemies," but at least that's some spiritual supernatural mumbo jumbo that is fairly meaningless anyway. But to sincerely claim you "like" people that hate you and want you dead? You really are a mental midget...

i don't love people that wish I would die. I just don't hate them. And I forgive them. And, I can talk to them. I am a conservative, so I just like people in general. I like talking to people (even people who disagree with me.)

Christian belief is not bullshit hedge. I can (and do) turn the other cheek.

did you even watch this scene from West Wing that I linked? This scene is perfectly acted. This is what happens when you have two very intelligent, very well educated people on either side of the political aisle debate with one another. Not one strawman was erected. At no point did one talk over the other. And neither ever said "that is not true" to the other one. There was no bullshit there, just respect even if it was said in anger. Do you think you are man enough to have this kind of a calm, lucid conversation, with someone you so passionately disagree? I can do that. I HAVE done that.

new CEO Licht is trying to get CNN to actually be a news station again



If you are woke, you are gone. News only with Licht. Board is free to fire Licht at any moment if they don't like the calls he is making, but he is making these calls.

hedge wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:16 am "That was incredibly stupid and divisive, and worse"

Yeah, I miss Trump, the great unifier...

but you voted for Biden because he wasn't going to do that right?

Karma

I think this is true, they want MAGA violence and are provoking it.

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Start with one divisive presidential speech accusing 74 million voters of being enemies of the state. Add two Marine guards against a blood-red background for flavor. Whip up the base. Stir in a large pool of resentment and bring to a boil. Sprinkle in a large contingent of FBI operatives to mix with low-intellect stoned bloggers living in repair shop basements and calling for civil war.

Bake for a few weeks and allow resentment to rise. The FBI will supply the necessary heat and preparation to foment Insurrection 2.0. Frost the cake with the state-controlled news and social media reacting in horror and disgust at the evil, violent actions of MAGA Republicans.

This is the recipe for a Democrat October Surprise.

The corrupt media are already working overtime to set the stage by playing up the "civil war" potential and predicting violence from "white supremacists and far-right extremists."

The president and Dems in Congress will have no choice but to react decisively to save democracy and protect the American people from this horrible MAGA threat. The critical decision will need to be made: will they have time for more televised show trials before the election, or should they just move on to declaring martial law and postponing the election indefinitely?


A year ago, I would have thought this scenario impossibly absurd. I also never thought an ex–U.S. president's home could be raided by the FBI, or a current president could make such a hateful, incendiary, and shall I say "semi-fascist" speech.

Perhaps they will not need to make that decision at all if the media do their "job" and manufacture enough hate and resentment toward Republicans. Highly edited video clips and overheated commentator vitriol can be very effective in influencing independent and passive voters who just want to live their lives without all the drama and politics. Just give the Democrats what they want and turn down the volume.

A provoked violent reaction by FBI-organized radical right-wing dupes could sway the election and allow the Dems to continue to control Congress for at least another two years. All they need is a few coordinated attacks at abortion facilities or Dem campaign headquarters. A large group of rioters calling for civil war would be perfect.

Provocation of violence was the obvious intention behind Biden's insane speech last Thursday night.

eCat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:58 am

hedge wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:16 am "That was incredibly stupid and divisive, and worse"

Yeah, I miss Trump, the great unifier...

but you voted for Biden because he wasn't going to do that right?

Speaking of Karma....