The Goat Pen

Pointless?

Remember when Republicans compared a Comic Dog trespass to the Insurrection? That was funny.

Biden doesn't care about you. He's a corporate and Wall St shill. Trump doesn't care about you. He's a conman grifter buffoon. Bernie doesn't care about you either. He steered the revoluition back into a right of center party. Who does care for you? These guys do. Asterisk. They might make sure you are who you say you are before they party up with you, like the A-team used to do.

https://peoplesparty.org/platform/

Are you wearing Birkenstocks right now? Because I picture you wearing Birkenstocks right now.

How about you suck my birkencock?

I'd get that looked at.

"Who does care for you? These guys do."

"If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life." - Henry David Thoreau

if something is free, you are are the product - Richard Serra

I don't really give two shits about Ukraine/Russia other than how it affects Americans.

That said, the media is clearly anti-Russian (and it would seem they are certainly justified) but in doing so they create this bias for generating a false hope for Ukraine.

This is a pretty good article asking why we believe Generals on TV who are telling us Russia is losing this war.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/07/why ... n-ukraine/

For example, retired Gen. Ben Hodges said last week that the “Russians are exhausted,” from four months of fighting and that if “the West sticks together through this year, then I think (the war) will be over (early 2023).” Earlier this month, retired Gen. Mark Hertling told a CNN audience that as Ukraine “gets more and more artillery” from the West, Hertling concluded that he believes “you’re going to see a gradual turn in the tide.”

On July 10th, former Vice Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army, Gen. Jack Keane – echoing Generals Hodges and Hertling – told Fox News that despite Russia’s progress in the Donbas, the “Ukrainians still have a real opportunity…to take back territory and we should not underestimate them.”

And yet, there is little credible evidence to suggest that any of these claims

The Russians are no doubt bloodied and have suffered significant equipment loss, but there is no evidence on the battlefield that they are anywhere near “exhausted.”

Most of the artillery promised by the West has already been delivered and it has not, to date, resulted in even slowing Russia’s advance through the Donbas, much less stopped it. The HIMARS launchers have enabled Ukraine to strike deep behind Russian lines, and they have caused severe harm in their enemy’s rear areas. Nonetheless, even that has not resulted in any observable reduction in the still-heavy daily barrage of artillery on Ukrainian positions.

Furthermore, nothing has slowed the Ukrainian casualties – reportedly up to 1,000 per day – from Russian artillery, rocket, and tank fire. Nothing has changed the dynamics in the air where Russia dominates the skies to the tune of up to 300 sorties per day to about 20 for Ukraine. And there has been no change to the fact that Ukraine is running critically short of ammunition for its howitzers while Russia can continue to manufacture almost limitless numbers for themselves.

"PULL OUT! PULL OUT!" - Es mom at conception

"I don't really give two shits about Ukraine/Russia other than how it affects Americans"

Obviously you do.

if the media is creating a false narrative about the outcome of the Ukraine war to keep America involved while we have $5, oh sorry, $4 now, thanks Biden, gas, $100 bags of fertilizer and strained relations with Europe, then yes, I do care , which is what I pointed out and you would have realized if you didn't have the comprehension of a 6 year old

You type like that Klovsky guy or whoever Tree posted sounds. Plus, your insights suck.

Chomsky

The issue is that the US shouldn't be in a position where our economy is severely effected by an invasion in Ukraine, Middle East, or otherwise. We have enough resources and agriculture to feed and keep us going. What's happening now is the downside of globalization.

I don't watch any of our garbage "news" but IMO Ukraine will be completely victorious within couple more months, and Putin is unlikely to be alive in a year.

aTm wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:30 pm I don't watch any of our garbage "news" but IMO Ukraine will be completely victorious within couple more months, and Putin is unlikely to be alive in a year.

aTm, I hope you are correct. I think EVERYONE HERE is on your side on this one thing for sure. But this shit....

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/v ... n-ukraine/

...this shit concerns me.

We have a 43 year old Ukrainian born congresswoman, who was ALL-IN for the USA to support Ukraine on March 1st, and now (after visiting the country 6 times since the war started), this woman who spent the first 22 year of her life as a Ukrainian is having doubts about USA supporting a very corrupt Ukrainian government.

And "anonymous" GOP congressmen are telling her to kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP! We don't want people looking too deeply into this.

Why? Why can't we look deeply into this? That is part of citizen run self-government. The citizens need to be informed as to what the fuck is going on and why its going on!

All three of the governments involved in your post...Ukraine, Russia, and the United States are corrupt, so I'm not sure why it matters. Yes, you'd have to be a dunce to think that the Ukraine govt is less corrupt than ours, but Russia's is worse than theirs. I dont see it as a factor at all in who to support. "But Ukraine is corrupt!" is a right wing red herring.

I believe in my heart that both Putin & Trump will die in a bunker. Just hope it's soon.