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Dave23 wrote:Never watched it, doubt I ever will...don't know them and they don't know me...therefore, fuck it...

I will say this...if they thought they would not like the answer, maybe they shouldn't have asked the question?

Oh, they liked the answer. No one would have heard of the story if he had given the "what one does in private is their business" tripe.
Now, all these reporters and commentators can report and opine on what another reporter reported on. Hell, they may get a couple of weeks out of it.

I wrote a long post about my annoyance at people conflating this with a "freedom of speech" issue, especially politicians who should know better. I hit send and got a 503 error. I'm not going at it again.

its kinda like people that used to go over to the Rivals message boards and dump on Tubby, and then their post would get deleted or banned - then they go off on Freedom of Speech.

It ain't your website, you agreed to terms when you logged on. They never understood that.

I just watched out of the furnace. Its an odd movie. I guess you could say its a new angle to the standard revenge movie but the first 30 minutes of the movie have absolutely nothing to do with the last. Its like 3 episodes of a TV show put together.

That said , given there was nothing else on TV tonight, I didn't mind sitting thru it. My wife couldn't stand it though.

Never heard of it.

I think its in theaters now - Christian Bale, Casey Affleck, Woody Harrelson

I'd never even heard of this guy but he looks like a pig fucker to begin with.

e really wasn't in tune with all the stuff going on outside the little village of West Monroe , LA. As he said, I suspect he worked hand in hand with his black neighbors, and if you look at studies back them, literacy and out of wedlock rates were about the same for whites as it was African Americans in those rural areas.

Sorry, I call bull on that. It's not like Jim Crow was hidden. The white only signs were everywhere. The rules about not looking a white person in the eye were open and obvious. Jim Crow wasn't behind the scenes. It was for the rich and for the poor. The only way he didn't know about it is if he was institutionalized. What he's saying is that he didn't think it was a problem and the Blacks that he knew didn't complain to him (hardly a surprise in Louisiana).

Owlman wrote:

e really wasn't in tune with all the stuff going on outside the little village of West Monroe , LA. As he said, I suspect he worked hand in hand with his black neighbors, and if you look at studies back them, literacy and out of wedlock rates were about the same for whites as it was African Americans in those rural areas.

Sorry, I call bull on that. It's not like Jim Crow was hidden. The white only signs were everywhere. The rules about not looking a white person in the eye were open and obvious. Jim Crow wasn't behind the scenes. It was for the rich and for the poor. The only way he didn't know about it is if he was institutionalized. What he's saying is that he didn't think it was a problem and the Blacks that he knew didn't complain to him (hardly a surprise in Louisiana).

I"m not sure how you think we're not saying the same thing. I said at his age he couldn't plead ignorance, just that in his little small area those issues didn't come into play.

I watched a documentary called "Four Year Plan" that I hadn't seen yet on Netflix last night. It basically documents the soccer team I follow in England, Queens Park Rangers, for the four years following the club's purchase in 2007 by 4 billionaire owners, saving the club from liquidation. Basically its all just fly on the wall camera work following the clubs new management with no real narration or interviews. I find it incredible that they allowed it to be filmed. Basically Flavio Briatore comes in and claims that in 4 years QPR will be in the Premier League (they were in the Championship (ie second division) at the time) and so this guy basically films the club management in their box at every game, and at fan meetings and even inside the board room at financial meetings and things. Basically Briatore was the typical puffed up macho Italian meddling and reacting at every turn. The camera catches him during games screaming about how his coach is an idiot and throwing such bombs as "That prick in the dugout!" in Italian and screaming about how "He wants to sell that idiot!" after a player misses a chance on goal. Then he even is caught basically having an entire conversation with another Italian about how they are going to be able to relay instructions about what formation to play and what subs to make down to the manager. And of course the longer this idiot runs the club and the more managers he fires, the club's on field performance just gets worse and worse. At one point he's outside the stadium screaming at fans that they only paid 10 pounds and he paid 35 million, and he'll gladly sell it to them if they'll buy it off him so he doesn't have to take their shit. Amazing film even if you're just interested in insight into the modern day ownership of any sports team. This same kind of thing could probably made about Dan Snyder, George Steinbrenner, and Jerry Jones type ownership here but no way the typical team is going to agree to let cameras in like that.

" Basically Briatore was the typical puffed up macho Italian meddling and reacting at every turn. The camera catches him during games screaming about how his coach is an idiot and throwing such bombs as "That prick in the dugout!" in Italian and screaming about how "He wants to sell that idiot!" after a player misses a chance on goal"

Goldie??

eCat wrote:

Owlman wrote:

e really wasn't in tune with all the stuff going on outside the little village of West Monroe , LA. As he said, I suspect he worked hand in hand with his black neighbors, and if you look at studies back them, literacy and out of wedlock rates were about the same for whites as it was African Americans in those rural areas.

Sorry, I call bull on that. It's not like Jim Crow was hidden. The white only signs were everywhere. The rules about not looking a white person in the eye were open and obvious. Jim Crow wasn't behind the scenes. It was for the rich and for the poor. The only way he didn't know about it is if he was institutionalized. What he's saying is that he didn't think it was a problem and the Blacks that he knew didn't complain to him (hardly a surprise in Louisiana).

I"m not sure how you think we're not saying the same thing. I said at his age he couldn't plead ignorance, just that in his little small area those issues didn't come into play.

One of my many issues with the statements by Phil in that GQ article start with the premise that Blacks during Jim Crow were not that bad off and then he transitions to juxtapose it against the welfare state today. So, the state of blacks is one thread winding from Jim Crow to government assistance? Fuck him. I surely didn't expect more out of him but don't get it confused, not much of what he said was truly Christian or logical.

(on it's face it's insulting and ignorant...and that's before we get to the part where we talk about the greatest beneficiaries of government assistance are not black people)

American Hustle and Wolf of Wall Street are both very entertaining. Two thumbs up for both.

I finally finished Homeland. It made little sense...but I still kinda enjoyed it.

So watching Homeland is kinda like taking LSD...

Is the series over?

I didn't realize Treme was only doing 5 episodes this season and calling it a wrap forever. Then again, while it was entertaining (mostly for the music), that show just never went anywhere in terms of tension or drama. That seems to be what David Simon wants, just a look at life in NO after the flood in hopes that it will raise awareness for the "real" New Orleans and not the ones the developers want to rebuild. But I no longer found it to be must-see TV on Sunday nights as I had in the past. At least not like BE, GOT or TWD.

"just a look at life in NO after the flood in hopes that it will raise awareness for the "real" New Orleans and not the ones the developers want to rebuild."

Who does he think built the "real" one to start with? The dude with the case of Heineken wading thru the flood waters after Katrina?

pretty much. the people playing the music in the old dives and jazz clubs, not the assholes who want to build new touristy venues.

just watched the last 3 episodes of Treme. I will miss that show for the music, characters and awesome sets. Yet it was unfulfilling at times when you wanted more pull, not unlike an ultra light cigarette or some weak-ass McDonald's coffee

Or that god damn vinegar crap.