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[aTm]

If a Black guy did this to an unarmed white kid walking home and he wasn''t arrested

Now, now, lets not create some outlandish fantasy like this. A black guy shooting somebody and not getting arrested immediately??? Good one.

[Owlman]

I hope you replied "If I were one of your employees, I would have no will to live anyway..."

Hi AA!

heh

[Jungle Rat]

So what ever happened to the white guy who got cold knocked out, robbed and stripped naked in the streets of Baltimore by black dudes a month or so ago? Where was Billy Graham?!

[Bklyn]

When were you in Baltimore to see that covered in a two paragraph section on the 8th page of a local paper?

[Jungle Rat]

I caught it on YouTube and posted it somewhere here awhile back wondering why no outrage.

[Gator by God's Grace]

I think el zimmolito is lying about how things went down. unless the kid had a history of fighting, it seems unlikely he would sneak up and jump this stranger in an unfamiliar neighborhood he was visiting, regardless of how much dope he smoked back home in miami. it doesnt make any sense. zimmerman probably tried to physically detain the kid and the kid freaked out.

[Gator by God's Grace]

I can say that if I saw a *white* kid in my neighborhood wearing a flat bill baseball cap, a hoodie and had pants hanging down below his ass - and he was walking down my street AND I didn't know who he was, I would be suspicious of him.

that's pretty much most teens in Florida.

[Bklyn]

I know, Rat, and I thought there was a decent amount of outrage...

[innocentbystander]

I don't think they will be able to convict, certainly not a murder conviction in Florida.

Manslaughter and 10-15 years? Maybe. Murder? Nopey, not going to happen, not in Florida. Case is not that strong, not with the killer confessing from the get go and killing the victim while on the job. Zimmerman feels awful about this, would do anything to undo what he did.

If the DA really holds firm on murder, then Zimmerman walks and Florida burns (ala Los Angeles 20 years earlier, for the exact same reason.)

[Owlman]

Zimmerman feels awful about this, would do anything to undo what he did

1983, my first rotation in the E.R. in Galveston. I see a couple of young man (on Spring Break), who bring a teen in the E.R. One of these young men is covered in blood. As it turns out they were down here for spring break and the kid covered in blood was doing donuts in the middle of the street, lost control and hit a 14 year old kid on a bicycle. The blood was the kid's as he tried to help him. The thing that will always stick with me was his profound sadness when we told him that the 14 year old was dead. He just brok down and cried. He was inconsolable. That's when the police came in. He was apparently convicted on some reckless homicide charge later.

[Bklyn]

Yeah, contrition should not play a role in verdicts (although it never hurts)...it does seem to factor in to sentencing, as far as being an official part of the legal equation. The verdict should be about the facts and the evidence, though.

[BigRedMan]

I caught it on YouTube and posted it somewhere here awhile back wondering why no outrage.

Because fool, that wasn't no hate crime. Only white people can be racist and do shit like that. Didn't you get the memo???

[T Dot O Dot]

So what ever happened to the white guy who got cold knocked out, robbed and stripped naked in the streets of Baltimore by black dudes a month or so ago? Where was Billy Graham?!

did it take 2 months for a conviction?

better yet, did the Baltimore Police detain the assailants for questioning then let them go along their merry way?

[Jungle Rat]

Don't know. Haven't heard anything about it since.

[eCat]

I think el zimmolito is lying about how things went down. unless the kid had a history of fighting, it seems unlikely he would sneak up and jump this stranger in an unfamiliar neighborhood he was visiting, regardless of how much dope he smoked back home in miami. it doesnt make any sense. zimmerman probably tried to physically detain the kid and the kid freaked out.

I don't think he had a chance to come up with anything , especially given that there are witnesses to some events in the timeline. I would think you'd have to be a very cool customer to go thru that and have the frame of mind to convincingly lie. He had just shot a person.

[eCat]

I can say that if I saw a *white* kid in my neighborhood wearing a flat bill baseball cap, a hoodie and had pants hanging down below his ass - and he was walking down my street AND I didn't know who he was, I would be suspicious of him.

that's pretty much most teens in Florida.

the question is - if any one of them was walking thru Zimmerman's neighborhood, would he be suspicious of them?

[Gator by God's Grace]

apparently so.

[Gator by God's Grace]

So what ever happened to the white guy who got cold knocked out, robbed and stripped naked in the streets of Baltimore by black dudes a month or so ago? Where was Billy Graham?!

did it take 2 months for a conviction?

better yet, did the Baltimore Police detain the assailants for questioning then let them go along their merry way?

you mean 2 months for an indictment. some of that delay was due to the local prosecutor stepping aside and the state having to bring in an outside prosecutor to review the case. also, there have been leaked hints that the police passed the buck entirely to the state attorneys' office on the decision-making due to the "Stand your ground" legal issues. I'd like to know what was taking so long at the original local state attorney (although, there have certainly been other cases where it took a while for charges to issue). i dont know if the local guy had decided on no charges or was still looking at it to that point. in a similar pending case near me that is probably going to set legal precedent for the el zim case, the shooter also went home from the incident in 2010, but then charges were brought within the next day or so iirc. they had his trial i think end of 2011, and now legal motions are (still) being reviewed and considered re dismissal.

[Gator by God's Grace]

i've heard there have been other cases since this stand your ground law passed where the cops in FLA shrugged their shoulders and no charges were ever brought due to lack of witnesses.

[Jungle Rat]

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