Florida State Seminoles

[Tree]

In all fairness a lot of big money folks will be adding to their holdings by buying up market shares, for cheap, that previously went out of business because the government decided not to help certain sectors. You can spin that as a "Jewish agenda" if you want but really it's just the capitalists putting their boot on our throats like they've always done. How the game works.

[Jungle Rat]

Good lord IB. You are as dense as they come. Tell me more about adoptions in the late 60s early 70s before Roe. I'm really interested in how it worked. Moron.

You understand perfectly the points that I am making. Leave the Lord out of this. He understands that you understand what I am saying. And He understands that I understand what both you and DS are saying. So He understands that you understand that I am not really dense. I get everything you are saying here. I am just correcting you on your insults.

You want to call me stubborn? Okay. You want to call me reluctant to change? I'll give you that. I am very set in my ways here. And I am set because my ways are predicated on intelligence, logic, reason, and 5 decades of data. But dense and ignorant? No. I am not either of those things. That is out of line. I would not do that to you or DS. I may say you are wrong or misled, but neither of you are ignorant.

So you can't answer the question. Gotcha. And yes, you are dense. Completely.

[hedge]

Now we know why eCat hates the CDC...

[hedge]

In all fairness a lot of big money folks will be adding to their holdings by buying up market shares that previously went out of business because the government decided not to help certain sectors. You can spin that as a "Jewish agenda" if you want but really it's just the capitalists putting their boot on our throats like they've always done. How the game works.

I have to admit I've seen some not terribly far-fetched twitter feeds about Pfizer putting up roadblocks to Novovax getting approved. Don't have any idea if it's true, but it's certainly not hard to think, with billions in profit on the line, that they would do anything they could to elimiate (or at least slow down) the competition...

[Jungle Rat]

IB. Cmon. Adoptions in the late 60s early 70s before Roe. Educate me.

[innocentbystander]

IB. Cmon. Adoptions in the late 60s early 70s before Roe. Educate me.

I don't think I am educating you. You know all this stuff. You are older than I am and (I'm sure) you have more wisdom than I do.

Prior to Roe-vs-Wade (and even years after) we had things in the social fabric of this nation called Catholic Charities. One of the purposes of the Catholic Charities was to give girls who were in a family way, a place to live for the last few months (on the church's dime, not theirs) and they would have access to top quality healthcare (once again, on the church's dime) where they would give birth in secrecy. It was quiet, but it was working. This was a public-private-religious partnership that existing in our nations for decades (perhaps a century.) My own cousin was adopted by my aunt and uncle through Catholic Charities. He has no idea who his birth mother is and maybe its best that it be that way.

This type of civilized, social structure, was a perfect example of how society helped pregnant girls who made a terrible mistake. They made a mistake. And oh well, we have the social capital in place to take care of this minor problem, the baby lives, the baby (quite often) thrives, and mom goes back to her life as if nothing happened. She is no longer encumbered throughout her life to support her child without a husband and a loving, married couple, they get a baby. Its a win-win.

But then leftists had to come along and fuck all that up by getting elected into state and federal legislature, creating LAWS that say that the Catholic Church is MANDATED to give these babies over to same-sex-couples and other fucked up, totally dysfunctional, family formations, and so the church decided it would be best to cease this way of helping the community. We had something that was working (maybe not perfectly, but well enough) and people on the left had to go and fucking ruin it. So the church is out now.

Today, there are massive amounts of state and government resources available for never-married-moms who are pregnant. But the focus here is NOT in getting mom AWAY from people, society, and embarrassment, to give birth in secret and give the baby up for adoption. Oh no. Now the focus is get her an abortion OR (failing that) give her a government check and a government dwelling for the next 18 years. Oh and while she is doing that, she goes and has 4 more kids with 3 other different dads, just get a bigger government check. And she KEEPS all her thug spawn. NONE are adopted out (the way they should be) and they turn out to be BLM and rioters and all grow up feeling that they have less in life than they are entitled. But hey, at least mom can bond with her babies? So feminism wins right? And the people who lose are infertile married couples desperate for children, the taxpayers, and the children in general because their lives will be in ruin. But fuck all them I guess, because we need to empower the pregnant mom and her feelings.

Things are all fucked up rat. You already knew all this. Nothing here I said, there is nothing here you didn't already know.

[Jungle Rat]

Wow

[innocentbystander]

Wow

What do you mean wow? You knew all that. You already knew ALL of that. That is the history of adoption in the United States. You know that none of the kids that riot in the street and burn shit down have fathers at home, that they were all sired out of wedlock and raised by never-married-moms that have not only never been married, that they have never even BEEN to weddings. You knew that. Books have been written about all of this cultural decay.

All of that was factual, all of it.

[Jungle Rat]

So the mom made a mistake. Gotcha. And because you have a cousin you know all these facts about adoption pre Roe. Gotcha again. The mistake laden mom just plops the kid out and goes about her life as you say "as if nothing ever happened." Never even thinks about the kid again. Praise Jesus. Like a miracle. No thoughts.

Never mind the 9 months labor, complications if there are, mental battles with adoption. All those memories just vanish. Not to mention the women who almost died just to have a kid she'll soon not care about. Yes. Let's put women through hell. Their mistake.

You're a fucking moron. Why is this a Catholic thing? Why are you once again making adoption political and racist? Because well, you are a racist. And a fucking idiot.

Maybe the reason your cousins birth mom gave him up was because he was retarded like you.

[innocentbystander]

So the mom made a mistake. Gotcha. And because you have a cousin you know all these facts about adoption pre Roe. Gotcha again. The mistake laden mom just plops the kid out and goes about her life as you say "as if nothing ever happened." Never even thinks about the kid again. Praise Jesus. Like a miracle. No thoughts.

Never mind the 9 months labor, complications if there are, mental battles with adoption. All those memories just vanish. Not to mention the women who almost died just to have a kid she'll soon not care about. Yes. Let's put women through hell. Their mistake.

You're a fucking moron. Why is this a Catholic thing? Why are you once again making adoption political and racist? Because well, you are a racist. And a fucking idiot.

Maybe the reason your cousins birth mom gave him up was because he was retarded like you.

Of course the birth mom's think about the kids they gave up for adoption.

TOO BAD!

They did the right thing. That's it. An unmarried mom giving her baby up for adoption is the right thing to do. It was the right thing to do for everyone's sake. ALL. And you (as a father) should be my ally on this. I can't believe that you are so deluded by leftism that you fail to see that bastards who are adopted into loving families almost ALWAYS do so much better in life than if they were raised by their birth mother. You think that Apple Computer ever would have existed if Steve Jobs wasn't adopted by those loving parents? You are high on crack if you think that would have happened.

Its not necessarily a Catholic thing. In the South, protestant churches also had their own "missions" where they sponsored homes for wayward girls under the same circumstances. Its just that they didn't have the infrastructure or the hierarchy of the Catholic church behind them. Their efforts were equally as effective, just a bit more localized.

You know what rat, I was wrong about your wisdom. You are either lacking in that department or your allegance to leftism prevents you for acknowledging basic common sense.

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What about the twink cruiser porn?

[innocentbystander]

What about the twink cruiser porn?

Later. Samantha is going to "shame" Mike. Lets see if he sits and listens.

Would you sit there and be lectured by a 28 year old girl?

[Jungle Rat]

Again IB. All you bring is unfounded opinions and racist views. What you are saying is single mothers don't have the right to exist. And that all their kids will grow up convicts and rapists. Based on a very disturbing point of view. Abortion should always be an option no matter what you lunitics think. I'm betting that a woman who has an abortion has a much better chance at success than going through the whole ordeal of adoption. Adoption laws or not the kids can always find their mother and vice versa. That in itself is enough of a mental ordeal. A simple 15 minute out patient procedure ends all that. All of it.

[Jungle Rat]

Gotta be easier for a birth mother to have a what could have been thought than a what do they look like thoughts the rest of their lives.

[eCat]

Reaction when witness for the prosecution admits under oath he pointed a loaded gun at Rittenhouse first

[innocentbystander]

Again IB. All you bring is unfounded opinions and racist views. What you are saying is single mothers don't have the right to exist. And that all their kids will grow up convicts and rapists. Based on a very disturbing point of view. Abortion should always be an option no matter what you lunitics think. I'm betting that a woman who has an abortion has a much better chance at success than going through the whole ordeal of adoption. Adoption laws or not the kids can always find their mother and vice versa. That in itself is enough of a mental ordeal. A simple 15 minute out patient procedure ends all that. All of it.

That 15 minute outpatient procedure is murder. Always was. Always will be.

As far as racism goes, I have not mentioned anyone's race even once. So stop projecting. What I am saying applies to all races, equally.

[innocentbystander]

Reaction when witness for the prosecution admits under oath he pointed a loaded gun at Rittenhouse first

eCat, this is not a criminal trial. This is a political trial. Rittenhouse is on trial for his life because of politics, pure and simple. Its not quite as purely political as Nifong in North Carolina, but its pretty close. The only difference here is the DA's office is wasting everyone's time.

And because its a political trial (and not a criminal one) the media has largely remained silent on this. Obviously, that testimony about the Rosenbaum saying fuck you and pointing the gun, I don't think Lester Holt is going to want to report on that.

[eCat]

Grosskuetz not only admitted he was the aggressor, he also admitted he lied to the police about the gun, had it there illegally as a concealed weapon without a permit AND they still haven't introduced he admitted he regrets not unloading his clip into Rittenhouse.

Yet I bet Grosskuetz does not face criminal charges as he is a "victim"

The dumbass is also arguing with people on twitter


from twitter

Gaige Grosskreutz told police that he asked told Huber to stop attacking Kyle.

Gaige now admits that was a lie.

He told police Kyle racked the rifle and then shot him.

He did not tell police he pointed a Glock at Kyle.

[innocentbystander]

Grosskuetz not only admitted he was the aggressor, he also admitted he lied to the police about the gun, had it there illegally as a concealed weapon without a permit AND they still haven't introduced he admitted he regrets not unloading his clip into Rittenhouse.

Yet I bet Grosskuetz does not face criminal charges as he is a "victim"

The dumbass is also arguing with people on twitter


from twitter

Gaige Grosskreutz told police that he asked told Huber to stop attacking Kyle.

Gaige now admits that was a lie.

He told police Kyle racked the rifle and then shot him.

He did not tell police he pointed a Glock at Kyle.

Yeah, as I said, politics.

That is why you aren't hearing from anyone on the left here at the Goat Pen making the irrational claim that Rittenhouse is guilty of anything. They know he is likely going to walk and they know that this is all just a political trial.

[eCat]

Grosskuetz had a $10m lawsuit against the city.

I'm not sure that the prosecution wasnt working against its own witness

because today's testimony just cost him that money