The Goat Pen

eCat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:52 am lets hope they don't have to fly Southwest to get there....


Gov. Janet Mills shot down a Tuesday call from top Republicans to pass a testing alternative to her vaccine mandate for health care workers after a Lewiston hospital moved to temporarily reduce admissions further.

Central Maine Medical Center posted on Monday that it was suspending pediatric, heart attack and trauma admissions. It came after the hospital gave a grim contingency plan to lawmakers on Friday that included cutting intensive care unit beds by 50 percent if it loses all workers who remain unvaccinated when the mandate goes into effect this month.

It is the first Maine hospital seeing wide-ranging effects on its operations with Mills’ mandate set to be enforced late this month and President Joe Biden’s administration implementing a superseding one. Neither has a testing alternative, which the Lewiston hospital and some lawmakers want. Mills ruled it out on Tuesday, though a top legislative Democrat did not.

Central Maine Medical Center cited “unprecedented healthcare workforce shortages” in a Tuesday statement. A COVID-19 pandemic workforce shortage has led to 500 job openings across the hospital’s parent group, which has said it could lose up to 200 workers of 3,000 in total unless they decide to get vaccinated within a few days.

For now, patients who arrive at the Lewiston hospital’s emergency room will be screened and stabilized before possibly being transferred to another hospital. The trauma diversion status would be reviewed every 24 hours, while the halting of pediatric care will continue until further notice. Heart attack patients were admitted again on Tuesday. It will also be closing its neonatal intensive care unit at the end of the month due to resignations of key workers.

The challenges have led to the hospital’s officials to call on Mills to provide testing options. Steve Littleston, the president and CEO of Central Maine Healthcare, told the Portland Press Herald that would reduce 90 percent of the system’s expected departures due to the mandate.

Republicans have joined in, with Senate Minority Leader Jeff Timberlake, R-Turner, and House Minority Leader Kathleen Dillingham, R-Oxford, writing in a Tuesday letter to Democratic leaders that the Legislature should return for a special session to discuss amending the mandate, saying “it is not hyperbole to suggest Mainers will die” if that does not happen.

The Democratic governor shot back in a statement later, calling that remark “repugnant, dishonest, and an insult to every Maine person who has lost their life to COVID-19.” She said her policy “will keep both health care workers and their patients alive” and noted that the upcoming federal policy — which will supersede the state mandate — has no exception.

hospital admins wrote:We don't have enough labor to keep the hospital open because the workers refuse to vaccinate. They would rather quit their jobs then take the vaccine. We can not help everyone that need help, its impossible. No labor. So math says people who will not be treated will die. Math says we have to submit to the staff or people die.

lefitst authoritarian living in ignorance of reality wrote:Fuck math. Math is racist. A policy is a policy. And it will be enforced. The end.

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:59 pm Did you idiots even read the link I posted about the $600? Buncha morons.

Tree wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:00 pm Immigration is a non issue that’s given to idiots to distract them from thinking about things that actually matter.

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:42 pm

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:59 pm Did you idiots even read the link I posted about the $600? Buncha morons.

I read the USA Today link. I am not a moron. I was just asking how this change over existing policy would help stop tax fraud. Your link didn't do a wonderful job answering that question.

Biden can't write bills to be signed into law. All he can do, is create an executive order. All executive orders terminate at the end of an Administration. (That is why Trump didn't have to maintain DACA.) Now if the IRS wants to change their regulatory policies (and it appears Yellen wants to do that very thing) then the responsibility is with the legislature to understand exactly why she wants transactions at $600 or more documented. And if that is a no-go for congress, then they need to write a bill, have it signed by the President, and create a law to prevent her from doing that. Obviously, NONE OF THAT will happen with this Senate and this President. Biden appointed Yellen so he is going to agree with whatever she says (because she is going to agree with Biden.) So he will not be signing any bills into law to stay her hand.

Tree wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:19 pm You realize this is the only way the ponzi scheme of capitalism can function right? Increasing amounts of cheap labor and poor consumers to buy our Art Pope drek. PS I think I just agreed with you. Please file this away for when the insect overlords come.

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:51 pm

Tree wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:19 pm You realize this is the only way the ponzi scheme of capitalism can function right? Increasing amounts of cheap labor and poor consumers to buy our Art Pope drek. PS I think I just agreed with you. Please file this away for when the insect overlords come.

How do you know about that weasel art pope? I thought you were/are a New Yorker?

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:49 pm

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:42 pm

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:59 pm Did you idiots even read the link I posted about the $600? Buncha morons.

I read the USA Today link. I am not a moron. I was just asking how this change over existing policy would help stop tax fraud. Your link didn't do a wonderful job answering that question.

Biden can't write bills to be signed into law. All he can do, is create an executive order. All executive orders terminate at the end of an Administration. (That is why Trump didn't have to maintain DACA.) Now if the IRS wants to change their regulatory policies (and it appears Yellen wants to do that very thing) then the responsibility is with the legislature to understand exactly why she wants transactions at $600 or more documented. And if that is a no-go for congress, then they need to write a bill, have it signed by the President, and create a law to prevent her from doing that. Obviously, NONE OF THAT will happen with this Senate and this President. Biden appointed Yellen so he is going to agree with whatever she says (because she is going to agree with Biden.) So he will not be signing any bills into law to stay her hand.

Yet again, you stupid fuck, you’re wrong. EO’s don’t expire unless there is a sunset clause. The EO’s must be rescinded / revoked / overridden / cancelled.

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:17 pm “All executive orders terminate at the end of an Administration.”

Wrong. There has to be an action ending the order.

What do you not understand, you stupid son of a bitch?

Presidential executive orders, once issued, remain in force until they are canceled, revoked, adjudicated unlawful, or expire on their terms. At any time, the president may revoke, modify or make exceptions from any executive order, whether the order was made by the current president or a predecessor.