The Goat Pen

sardis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:29 pm Who's great idea was to have a student trip to Afghanistan even without the pullout?

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... s-stranded

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:31 pm

eCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:57 pm its about anti-bodies, not the vaccine

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The New Civil Liberties Alliance is pleased to announce today that George Mason University (GMU) has granted a medical exemption from its mandatory Covid-19 vaccination policy to NCLA client Todd Zywicki, George Mason University Foundation Professor of Law at Antonin Scalia Law School. NCLA is delighted with Prof. Zywicki’s victory for freedom. His brave determination to fight the university’s misguided and scientifically unsound vaccination mandate has garnered nationwide attention. GMU and other universities must stop ignoring science and cease forcing mandatory vaccines on even those with naturally acquired immunity (especially if only approved under a federal Emergency Use Authorization statute).

Strangely, despite solid scientific evidence, GMU continues to refuse to recognize that Covid-19 vaccination is medically unnecessary for ALL students, faculty, and staff with naturally acquired immunity demonstrated with antibody testing. At times GMU officials have appeared to deny that such a thing as naturally acquired immunity exists. This refusal is particularly odd, as the efficacy of the very vaccines GMU wishes to mandate are measured against levels of natural immunity acquired by those who have recovered from Covid-19. For this reason, NCLA continues to explore litigation against GMU. We also welcome hearing from others on public-university campuses in Virginia—particularly tenured faculty—who have naturally acquired immunity backed by antibody testing and whose schools are similarly disregarding the scientific facts surrounding naturally acquired immunity.

This is just scientific people in fear of being #unWoke and #cancelled if they go on the record in support of science. Of COURSE the people who already had Covid-19 (and lived) who are loaded with anti-bodies have more immunity than anyone who didn't already have it, getting a vaccine. Of course that is true. Of course it is redundant for the people with anti-bodies to go and get vaccines.

If as a scientist, your paycheck depends on you being political first, scientist second, its time to re-evaluate your career or (at the very least) re-evaluate how you choose to be compensated in your career. You always need to dealing from a position of strength. Several times in my career I have told bosses/employers to go fuck themselves and I've quit (just walked right off the job) because they wouldn't listen to me after I warned them time-and-again, don't do this. And in each case, my employer was SHOCKED that I would DO such a thing (abandoning them at a time when they said they need me the most.) In two such cases, my "abandonment" meant the eventual termination of my bosses because they couldn't follow my work AND they couldn't hire anyone to replace me in such time that the work I was doing would get done in the amount of time I was doing it. I call that free market justice. Scientists in academia need to feel like they are in a position of power such that they could speak TRUTH TO POWER without being terminated or if they are, they should be confident enough to know that it wouldn't matter, they can be hired by someone else (anyone else) tomorrow. Because their termination often means career #cancellation in academia, then that is probably why so many people are increasing turning their back on higher education. Academia is increasingly forgetting what its purpose is.

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:20 pm

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:31 pm

eCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:57 pm its about anti-bodies, not the vaccine

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The New Civil Liberties Alliance is pleased to announce today that George Mason University (GMU) has granted a medical exemption from its mandatory Covid-19 vaccination policy to NCLA client Todd Zywicki, George Mason University Foundation Professor of Law at Antonin Scalia Law School. NCLA is delighted with Prof. Zywicki’s victory for freedom. His brave determination to fight the university’s misguided and scientifically unsound vaccination mandate has garnered nationwide attention. GMU and other universities must stop ignoring science and cease forcing mandatory vaccines on even those with naturally acquired immunity (especially if only approved under a federal Emergency Use Authorization statute).

Strangely, despite solid scientific evidence, GMU continues to refuse to recognize that Covid-19 vaccination is medically unnecessary for ALL students, faculty, and staff with naturally acquired immunity demonstrated with antibody testing. At times GMU officials have appeared to deny that such a thing as naturally acquired immunity exists. This refusal is particularly odd, as the efficacy of the very vaccines GMU wishes to mandate are measured against levels of natural immunity acquired by those who have recovered from Covid-19. For this reason, NCLA continues to explore litigation against GMU. We also welcome hearing from others on public-university campuses in Virginia—particularly tenured faculty—who have naturally acquired immunity backed by antibody testing and whose schools are similarly disregarding the scientific facts surrounding naturally acquired immunity.

This is just scientific people in fear of being #unWoke and #cancelled if they go on the record in support of science. Of COURSE the people who already had Covid-19 (and lived) who are loaded with anti-bodies have more immunity than anyone who didn't already have it, getting a vaccine. Of course that is true. Of course it is redundant for the people with anti-bodies to go and get vaccines.

If as a scientist, your paycheck depends on you being political first, scientist second, its time to re-evaluate your career or (at the very least) re-evaluate how you choose to be compensated in your career. You always need to dealing from a position of strength. Several times in my career I have told bosses/employers to go fuck themselves and I've quit (just walked right off the job) because they wouldn't listen to me after I warned them time-and-again, don't do this. And in each case, my employer was SHOCKED that I would DO such a thing (abandoning them at a time when they said they need me the most.) In two such cases, my "abandonment" meant the eventual termination of my bosses because they couldn't follow my work AND they couldn't hire anyone to replace me in such time that the work I was doing would get done in the amount of time I was doing it. I call that free market justice. Scientists in academia need to feel like they are in a position of power such that they could speak TRUTH TO POWER without being terminated or if they are, they should be confident enough to know that it wouldn't matter, they can be hired by someone else (anyone else) tomorrow. Because their termination often means career #cancellation in academia, then that is probably why so many people are increasing turning their back on higher education. Academia is increasingly forgetting what its purpose is.

hedge wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:55 pm Carolina does it again:

UNC researchers develop universal COVID vaccine with the potential to protect against variants

https://www.dailytarheel.com/article/20 ... al-vaccine

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:23 pm

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:20 pm

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:31 pm

This is just scientific people in fear of being #unWoke and #cancelled if they go on the record in support of science. Of COURSE the people who already had Covid-19 (and lived) who are loaded with anti-bodies have more immunity than anyone who didn't already have it, getting a vaccine. Of course that is true. Of course it is redundant for the people with anti-bodies to go and get vaccines.

If as a scientist, your paycheck depends on you being political first, scientist second, its time to re-evaluate your career or (at the very least) re-evaluate how you choose to be compensated in your career. You always need to dealing from a position of strength. Several times in my career I have told bosses/employers to go fuck themselves and I've quit (just walked right off the job) because they wouldn't listen to me after I warned them time-and-again, don't do this. And in each case, my employer was SHOCKED that I would DO such a thing (abandoning them at a time when they said they need me the most.) In two such cases, my "abandonment" meant the eventual termination of my bosses because they couldn't follow my work AND they couldn't hire anyone to replace me in such time that the work I was doing would get done in the amount of time I was doing it. I call that free market justice. Scientists in academia need to feel like they are in a position of power such that they could speak TRUTH TO POWER without being terminated or if they are, they should be confident enough to know that it wouldn't matter, they can be hired by someone else (anyone else) tomorrow. Because their termination often means career #cancellation in academia, then that is probably why so many people are increasing turning their back on higher education. Academia is increasingly forgetting what its purpose is.

You are a goddamned idiot. Actual scientist, immunologists and doctors have conducted scientific studies with controlled and vetted data that proves the exact opposite of your statement, you dumb son of a bitch.

You're full of shit. Denny's, Shoney's and the Golden Corral are accustomed to losing dishwashers like you.

Also, you made the argument for tenure, one of the things conservatives rant against in academia, you stupid mother fucker.