The Goat Pen

How did his son become another douchebag politician from Kentucky?

fucking morons - their policies have harmed the people they are elected to protect. That is beyond incompetence, its criminal.
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Last summer, Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser played a high-profile role in the protests sweeping America over police killings of Black suspects. She renamed a street Black Lives Matter Plaza and joined thousands of demonstrators there, many shouting what had become the movement's slogan: "Defund the police!"

Earlier this year, the mayor, a Democrat, proposed cutting the police budget and redirecting money to social services.

Now, however, Bowser and many other Democratic city leaders are scrambling to boost police budgets and hire more officers amid the deadliest crime wave in two decades. Local and national Democrats are distancing themselves from "defund" politics and policies, a reflection of how deeply unpopular the concept has become among most voters - and how effective a weapon it can be for Republican candidates.

The crime wave has laid bare tensions between progressive Democrats, who still aim to overhaul U.S. policing, and mainstream Democrats now pushing traditional enforcement to combat crime.

The division has chilled efforts to reshape police departments and hold officers more accountable for excessive force. In New York, Atlanta and Seattle, Democratic city politicians have abandoned or scaled back police budget-cutting efforts and other proposals they touted amid the uproar over the 2020 death of George Floyd, a Black man killed by police in Minneapolis. In Congress, a policing bill named after Floyd - sponsored by Vice President Kamala Harris when she was still a senator - remains stalled more than a year later.

New York pivoted from slashing almost $1 billion in police funds last year to adding $200 million this year. Oakland, California, boosted its police budget in June by $38 million after last year setting a goal to cut it by $150 million. Austin, a liberal bastion in conservative Texas, this year passed its largest-ever police budget under pressure from state Republicans over rising crime. Last year, Austin had diverted $150 million in police funds to other priorities.

In Washington, Bowser asked the city council last month for $11 million to hire 170 new police officers after a series of shootings. The council agreed to fund 40 officers.

I don't think it matters eCat. The people of Washington are not going to vote the democrats out of office because that means that the Republicans will win. That is a non-starter for these people no matter how dangerous the city is because of the law enforcement shortage.

Must suck to be a republican knowing people would rather die.

No it doesn't suck rat. I feel sorry for those people the way I feel sorry for you.

Ron Paul was right that we needed to get out of Afghanistan and he's good on some other issues as well, but at the end of the day his ideology of gutting government plays directly into what the corporate empire wants. Electing him would ultimately be expediting the collapse of the country, which is pretty obviously coming anyway although we don't have to go out of our way to hasten it.

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:43 am No it doesn't suck rat. I feel sorry for those people the way I feel sorry for you.

Why would you feel sorry for me? I love life.

Tree wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:46 am Ron Paul was right that we needed to get out of Afghanistan and he's good on some other issues as well, but at the end of the day his ideology of gutting government plays directly into what the corporate empire wants. Electing him would ultimately be expediting the collapse of the country, which is pretty obviously coming anyway although we don't have to go out of our way to hasten it.

What is collapsing this country is that there are people who are born real smart, people who are born with average intelligence, and people who are born stupid. At one time, even a stupid person could grow wealthy in the United States with nothing but hard work. Those days are gone (perhaps forever.) In the information age, you must work smarter, not harder. But what if you are not smart? You are fucked.

Our laws are created in this country by people who like to think that they are real smart. But what they really are, is just average intelligence. AOC is not smart. Pelosi is not smart. Schumer is not smart. They are not stupid, but they are not smart. The really smart people go into business and make millions of dollars out of thin air in the information age. And the really smart people use that money to lobby the people who create laws, to enable their feral behavior.

Think about it tree what good does no-fault-divorce law, do for stupid people? How are stupid people (who need stable marriages more than anybody) helped by a marriage contract that is not a contract? All it does is deny marriage to stupid people. So all their children are born in illegitimacy and rot. And you wonder why they hate rich people?

What good does Speedy Cash dealers and Title Loan dealers, do for stupid people? Why hasn't AOC written legislation to stop this criminal level of usury? Every Republican would sign that bill if she created it. What good does government created lottery tickets and scratch tickets do for stupid people? All these things do is make stupid people, poorer. That's it.

The nation is collapsing but that is because the really smart people don't give a fuck if stupid people live or die. That is because the really smart people see themselves as citizens of the Globe first (NOT as US citizens.) Really smart people think that if they valued their US citizenship, that would somehow make them racist. So they see no social construct that binds them to other US citizens who are stupid, US citizens who need legislation that would benefit them. Everything to a really smart globalist person, is nothing but a market. A housing market. A rental market. An airline ticket market. A labor market. An oil market. An energy market. A stock market. A crypto-currency market. All just markets.

And the smart people who have kids with just average intelligence, they cheat! They break the rules for their kids to make sure their kids are surrounded by really smart people so that their kids are not left behind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_coll ... ry_scandal

If everything is just one giant global market and everything you do is only to enable smart people, then of course, the country goes to shit. That is the corporate empire of which you speak, and that corporate empire cares not one bit for the nation state that is collapsing, your words. But that is unimportant to the really smart people because they don't like the concept of countries, the nation state. We are all just one giant fucking global community. And all the people who voted for Brexit, well they are just stupid people.

But what do I know, after all, you asked if I was unemployed.

So basically you're pissed because you're dumb.

This version of the Taliban seems to be a much smoother and soothing bunch of liars than our own government.

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:03 pm So basically you're pissed because you're dumb.

I'll take an IQ test vs you or hedge or DS or any of you at any moment. Are you game rat? Are you man enough to match your wits vs me?

No I am not pissed because I am dumb. I am pissed because the other smart people don't give a fuck about dumb people. I am pissed because smart people are able to use the government to create laws that enable their feral behavior, all the while, not giving a damn about the people in the nation who must also abide by those laws. You see, I have this terrible trait that makes me a weak and pathetic excuse for a smart person living in the globalist information age: I care. Because I am Christian, I am compelled to care what happens to stupid people.

Tree wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:46 am Ron Paul was right that we needed to get out of Afghanistan and he's good on some other issues as well, but at the end of the day his ideology of gutting government plays directly into what the corporate empire wants. Electing him would ultimately be expediting the collapse of the country, which is pretty obviously coming anyway although we don't have to go out of our way to hasten it.

but going trillions into debt doesn't

I would say RP , if anything, would have extended the demise. His way of government seems archaic now as people are demanding forgiveness of loans, government provided health care, readily accept depriving people of first amendment rights, federal overreach into state issues and openly support a reduced police presence. Ironically it appears those same people are for a continuation of war in foreign countries.

RP would have gutted the government as it relates to bureaucracy - the department of education - is the DOE really doing a great job in providing standard education for all students in America? How about HUD - do Americans enjoy government subsidized housing? Foreign Policy - Certainly America First would have new meaning under RP as opposed to Trump. RP would also support market demands for no minimum wage. People would lose their minds over that now but he would not step in to alter a glut of employees or a lack of them - the market would dictate the value of the worker. He would have eliminated any social engineering like affirmative action and quotas in schools.

There will never be a president like RP because the country has taken a huge step to the left and libertarian policies , both fiscal and socially of individual freedoms, is out of place with the modern agenda.

eCat, that was excellent. I don't know if tree will bother to read it. And if he does, he'll likely just disagree with it and disregard any point you've made (because how could he debate it?)

But I read it.

IB. You've got what looks like mayo on your chin.

there are some policies I strongly disagree with RP on

He is a mixed bag on immigration. He basically believes that there should no little to no security net for Americans provided by the government taxpayer, as as such if the nation can support immigrants so be it, they can come here to work or come here to starve but they'll get no government support either way. I don't believe you can let the market dictate the value of a worker if you are flooding it with immigrants. Now RP would certainly shut down illegal immigration to the extent he could but he'd also be for opening up the floodgates on legal immigration.

secondly RP believes the federal government has no place in maintaining national parks and I am a firm believer in the nation sharing its beauty with all of Americans without the threat of privatization or limited resources. While I don't think the federal government has any reason to own large plots of lands that are unused, national parks serve the general good and regardless of constitutional mandate, its something that states could not maintain at a standard the federal government can while fighting off the pressures of exploiting the land.

I do believe that RP's vision of America would certainly result in some winners and losers which progressives want to adamantly avoid but ultimately the foundation of America as a country would be much stronger at the expense of some people. There is no sugar coating that, but that is also Capitalism. There are always going to be winners and losers if you leave it to the market. But there will always be unfettered opportunity as well.

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:38 pm I do believe that RP's vision of America would certainly result in some winners and losers which progressives want to adamantly avoid but ultimately the foundation of America as a country would be much stronger at the expense of some people. There is no sugar coating that, but that is also Capitalism. There are always going to be winners and losers if you leave it to the market. But there will always be unfettered opportunity as well.

Of course. And at the moment (and for the foreseeable future) all the winners are the smart people and the losers are the dumb people.

Capitalism + Above average Intelligence + Information Age = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Capitalism + Average Intelligence + Information Age + Political/Educational connections & Networking = $$$ + Authority (business or government)

Capitalism + Average Intelligence + Information Age + nothing else = mere survival + divorce(s) + debt + bankruptcies + envy

Capitalism + Below average Intelligence + Information Age = illegitimacy + felony convictions + welfare + public housing + drug dependencies + obesity + debt + envy

Mark Zuckerberg never graduated Harvard. He didn't need to. He was born with an IQ that got him the 1600 on the SAT. By birth of the time period he was born, the geography of where he was born, and the size of his brain, he wins.

"LOL. Clarissa Ward reported on CNN that “They’re just chanting Death to America but they seem friendly at the same time.”"

At one point in that video, she said "I'm being told to stand aside, b/c I'm a woman." When I saw that, I realized that IB would be welcomed by the Taliban. His views of women's rights and women's minds in general is perfectly in alignment with theirs. As are his views on most everything. IB is basically an American Taliban member...

"What we want to know is why is it a shit show with our people running for the hills"

In fairness, there are a lot of hills around there...

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:15 pm "LOL. Clarissa Ward reported on CNN that “They’re just chanting Death to America but they seem friendly at the same time.”"

At one point in that video, she said "I'm being told to stand aside, b/c I'm a woman." When I saw that, I realized that IB would be welcomed by the Taliban. His views of women's rights and women's minds in general is perfectly in alignment with theirs. As are his views on most everything. IB is basically an American Taliban member...

Welcomed? What are you fucked? I'd be killed by the Taliban. I would be hung in seconds hedge. They would start their silly little yiyiyiyiyi chant and I would start laughing at them and be compelled to tell these pedarists that they are nothing more than incestuous, 3rd world, uncivilized, goat fucking peasants, who believe in moon worship. I'd be dead, not welcome.

"I mean technically that speech could best be summarized as "Fuck the Afghani cowards!""

Well, if the shoe fits...