The Goat Pen

Great start today to the Trump coup hearing. You have to be pathetically blind not to see what really happened. Repubs are once again looking like the fools they've come to be.

Why are you watching that silliness and NOT the Olympics?

Summer Olympics bore me. I catch the highlights and news but I won't watch it. Maybe baseball. Better things to do.

fair enough

Hillary backed candidate in trouble for ethics violations. Hope Nina Turner kicks her ass.

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinto ... be-1613460

Tiny potato

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:02 pm Tiny potato

If she did it then it's a pretty big deal. Granted this level of corruption is pretty standard in the US so I can see why you'd say that.

Not really a story yet. But it could be.

I do enjoy scalding ignominy…

I wish you enjoyed some scalding hot oil being thrown straight from the frying pan into your face.

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:13 am I wish you enjoyed some scalding hot oil being thrown straight from the frying pan into your face.

Well geez, I wonder if DS was retained by Dave's ex-wife in divorce court?

You dunce, have you not noticed a trend of posters wishing ill upon others in jest?

I think it would be a whole lot better if the left would just right out and say

Look we don't believe in borders. Hell we don't even believe in the concept of the nation state. We are all one global community and we don't give a fuck if that makes the uneducated born in the USA, poor. Everyone that was born in the USA (including the poor) were born lucky and we can correct that by letting everyone in. And no we will never EVER allow you to control a border that we don't think should even exist. Fuck you. And no, there is nothing superior to US culture over any culture south of the Rio Grande and we refuse to even dignify any conversation to that end

and the right should come right out and say

Look, farmers, pay more. Pay more money to your hands and hire US citizens. If that raises the price of food, so be it. But pay more and hire US citizens because we are going to send ICE to every farm in American and round up all your criminal labor once and for all. We will give you a list of names of US citizens who are on welfare in your town, go to them, and offer them jobs. Don't even bother to interview them and do not drug screen them since none of them will pass a drug screen. Just offer them a well formed, well supervised, farm job. And if they don't take the jobs, then we can revoke their welfare

At least then both sides would be honest and communicating.

Farmers didn't start using Hispanic peasant labor on their farms until World War II with the Bracero Program

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracero_program

but the only reason why that happened was because half the adult US male population was in a uniform in 1942. Farmers had zero help available to them. But its been a long long time since the second world war. Maybe after 80 years, its time to stop using Hispanic labor that we don't really need?

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:34 am You dunce, have you not noticed a trend of posters wishing ill upon others in jest?

Sure. But you can practice any form of law. Why be an asshole and a destroyer and practice family law? Why make a living off of feminist inspired legislation creating no-fault-divorce law that ruins husbands and children because married women go feral when they are unhaaaaapppppy?

Jest?

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:01 pm

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:34 am You dunce, have you not noticed a trend of posters wishing ill upon others in jest?

Sure. But you can practice any form of law. Why be an asshole and a destroyer and practice family law? Why make a living off of feminist inspired legislation creating no-fault-divorce law that ruins husbands and children because married women go feral when they are unhaaaaapppppy?

It's not in jest when it comes to you.

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:19 pm

innocentbystander wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:01 pm

DooKSucks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:34 am You dunce, have you not noticed a trend of posters wishing ill upon others in jest?

Sure. But you can practice any form of law. Why be an asshole and a destroyer and practice family law? Why make a living off of feminist inspired legislation creating no-fault-divorce law that ruins husbands and children because married women go feral when they are unhaaaaapppppy?

It's not in jest when it comes to you.

Why did you pick that form of law to practice when you could practice law in any other capacity? Why that one? Why choose the most infernal form of legal counsel?

Arnie Becker wasn't an asshole on LA Law just because he was a sexual sleaze and womanizer. He was an asshole because of the form of law he practiced at that firm. He destroyed families (just like what you do.) I asked you a legitimate question a while ago, what are you going to do if some cvnt comes to you saying she wants HALF from her husband, wants the kids, wants alimony, wants child support, and you KNOW that the father/husband is a good man, but she just doesn't want to fuck him anymore? What are you going to do counselor? You didn't answer because I think (deep down) you are ASHAMED of what we both know you would do.

Look I don't give a shit about your politics. You can be as far left as you want. You can channel Walter Mondale until you are blue in the face, I don't care. But you are using a law developed in CANCER (feminism = cancer = seek government authority through cancerous legislation to empower the cancer = no-fault-divorce law) and created a cottage industry of legal wealth out of it at the cost of ruined men, ruined children, and ruined families. That is what family law is in the United States. That is what you do and I aim to shame you for it. And I hope I am succeeding because what you are doing is ANYTHING but liberal. And you know why? Because the poorest and the most needy US citizens, it is their families who are ruined FIRST AND FOREMOST by your actions.

10ac wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:20 pmJest?

Exactly. Who the fucks he kidding? Shut up DS.

And I'm proud of you defending those bitches and raking it in. And I'm divorced.

This is interesting

pushback on newly issues mask mandates. I think alot of places are going to tell the "authorities" to go fuck themselves in regards to mask mandates


The St. Louis County Council moved to end the county’s new mask mandate Tuesday, throwing the order into legal limbo.

After hearing dozens of people rail against the mandate and County Executive Sam Page, council members voted 5-2 to end the order and rebuke Page for failing to consult them before issuing it, which they say was required under a new state law.

“Too many American men and women have given the last full measure of devotion for us to be cavalier with the very liberty they fought and died to provide,” said Councilman Ernie Trakas, R-6th District. “I will not abide any measures that seek to compromise or erode our liberty and freedom.”

Trakas was joined by council members Tim Fitch, R-3rd District, Mark Harder, R-7th District, Rita Heard Days, D-1st District, and Shalonda Webb, D-4th District. Councilwomen Kelli Dunaway, D-2nd District, and Lisa Clancy, D-5th District, dissented.

Page dismissed the vote as meaningless and continued to tout the mandate’s benefits in remarks after the vote.

“We as elected officials cannot stand by and let the delta variant rack up more and more victims each and every day,” he said. “Masks will help slow the spread of the virus while we continue to vaccinate as many people as we can.”

Whether those masks will be mandatory is likely now a question for the courts. Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican, has filed suit challenging the order. In the meantime, county residents will have to choose which of their leaders they want to believe as the highly infectious delta variant continues to spread.

Months of fighting over the Page administration’s power to issue orders appeared to be over in May. Virus caseloads reached comfortable lows and leaders across the country ended nearly all restrictions on public life. Republicans in Jefferson City also enacted a new law designed to rein in Page by requiring health officials to consult with legislative bodies before taking any action and giving those bodies veto power over some orders.

But the rise of the highly infectious delta variant, which has spent the last month driving up hospitalizations in southwest Missouri, prompted a return to executive action — and council resistance.





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St. Louis County Executive Sam Page defended the county's mask mandate Wednesday morning — and insisted it remained in effect — after council members moved on Tuesday night to end the new public health order.

The council voted 5-2 on Tuesday to end the order and rebuke Page for failing to consult them before issuing it, which they say was required under a new state law.

But Page said on Wednesday that the council had been appropriately notified and that the mask order didn't require council approval. He encouraged residents to wear masks in public.

"These cases, and this curve is shooting straight up," Page said. "And if we don't make some decisions fast, we're going to be in a bad spot."

Page said he expects that many people will continue to wear masks voluntarily, regardless of the council vote. The vast majority of residents, he said, just want to do what is safe.

"Masks will allow our businesses to remain open," Page said. "Masks will allow us to keep doing what we're doing while more people get vaccinated."