The Goat Pen

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:51 pm I think you can blame the Republican party for the idea that attacking the economy is an attack on Liberty but you don't have to look very hard to understand the concern.

Whenever the government gets involved in supporting the economic welfare of the country, it turns into a shitshow of excess.

guaranteed student loans have helped push the price of a college education out of reach for most Americans, fannie mae and freddie mac resulted in backed housing loans that created a housing bubble so large that it collapsed our economy, and medicare/medicaid with no big pharma negotiation and patient "rights" has contributed in large part to the medical industry what guaranteed student loans did to the education sector.

The paradox is obvious, people want the government to intervene but at the same time wouldn't trust someone like Trump to manage it, and they hold on to the short sighted belief that their guy is the answer - and in the unlikely event that their guy isn't a complete grifter, his job is temporary and he'll be replaced by more people who will use the bloated program to enrich themselves and their handlers.

At the end of the day the republicans talk a big game but don't deliver, however their promise is sound.

America thrives in a smaller, less intrusive government. However there is a cost that many people can't seem to grasp. Capitalism has winners and losers. The have nots have decided there should be no Jeff Bezos , Zuckerburg or Gates without understanding they limit themselves along the way.

They'll realize this in some small way when they get hit with a wealth tax on the value of their home and 401K, even though they don't have access to that money.

The paradox is obvious, people want the government to intervene but at the same time wouldn't trust someone like Trump to manage it

Tree wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:26 pm

The paradox is obvious, people want the government to intervene but at the same time wouldn't trust someone like Trump to manage it

Adam Smith wrote that the gubment has to do what needs to be done and no one else can or will do. As we're seeing now that's a lot and it's getting pretty urgent. Most people miss sight of the fact that both parties are highly corrupt and aren't interested in actually fixing what needs fixed. That doesn't mean you run off and start listening to retarded libertarian propaganda that Reagan made famous and say government is the problem so let's just let existentially crippling wealth disparities grow even bigger.

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:59 pm

Tree wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:26 pm

The paradox is obvious, people want the government to intervene but at the same time wouldn't trust someone like Trump to manage it

Adam Smith wrote that the gubment has to do what needs to be done and no one else can or will do. As we're seeing now that's a lot and it's getting pretty urgent. Most people miss sight of the fact that both parties are highly corrupt and aren't interested in actually fixing what needs fixed. That doesn't mean you run off and start listening to retarded libertarian propaganda that Reagan made famous and say government is the problem so let's just let existentially crippling wealth disparities grow even bigger.

a corrupt government isn't the solution

Tree wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:26 pm

The paradox is obvious, people want the government to intervene but at the same time wouldn't trust someone like Trump to manage it

Adam Smith wrote that the gubment has to do what needs to be done and no one else can or will do. As we're seeing now that's a lot and it's getting pretty urgent. Most people miss sight of the fact that both parties are highly corrupt and aren't interested in actually fixing what needs fixed. That doesn't mean you run off and start listening to retarded libertarian propaganda that Reagan made famous and say government is the problem so let's just let existentially crippling wealth disparities grow even bigger.

sardis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:20 am I guess the Whitehouse says if you are a Cuban refugee immigrant, we will send you back...

I’m ok with that. Just apply that o every illegal immigrant.

sardis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:20 am I guess the Whitehouse says if you are a Cuban refugee immigrant, we will send you back...

I’m ok with that. Just apply that o every illegal immigrant.

eCat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:52 am

sardis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:20 am I guess the Whitehouse says if you are a Cuban refugee immigrant, we will send you back...

I’m ok with that. Just apply that o every illegal immigrant.

then you're xenophobic, well, if you are white that is

that's how it works now.

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:52 am Yet another racist post from innocentbuttlicker

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:29 am Prove it. Show me a movie clip.