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Are you calling Dave a pussy?

Just saying...

‘Fellas, I Need 11,000 Votes’: Listen to the Full Audio of Trump’s Hour-Long Call Pressuring Brad Raffensperger
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/fellas-i ... ensperger/

Just another perfect call.

hyperbole

Hedge need to post more current stuff.

eCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:57 pmhyperbole

Have you listened to the call? I'll admit that Trump is such a whining idiot that most of the call comes across as, well, a whining idiot begging and whining, and it's kinda hilarious in the typically pathetic way that almost anything Trump says is hilarious. But he is clearly applying pressure on the guy to change the outcome of the election...

I havent heard the call, whats the threat?

I wouldn't characterize it as a threat, b/c Trump is a threat to no one. But he does whine, cajole, beg, lie and at a couple of points "suggests" that Raffensperger needs to "recalculate" the results and that he needs to "come up with" 11,000 some odd votes (b/c, as Trump helpfully pointed out, that's how much he was behind). All in all, it wasn't much more entertaining than anything else Trump has done or said over the past 4 years, but the edge of desperation that is clearly in his voice and demeanor makes it somewhat more pleasing, esp. knowing we won't be hearing anything from this fool in just a few weeks...

doesn't sound like watergate to me

He made vague references to criminal prosecution for the Georgia SoS while rehashing every disproven theory and sounding like a mad man hell bent on authoritarian rule.

I am worried about January 6, and I am worried he will try a half ass coup before the inauguration.

It's amazing and a little sad that Trump has lowered the bar so much over the past 4 years that formerly reasonable folks can now listen to something like this and just shrug it off. As with many incidents with Trump, just imagine if Obama had said anything close to that during his presidency. Repubs would have literally been calling for his execution, but when Trump does it all you get is a shrug and a "doesn't sound like Watergate to me"...

Who cares anymore. Just get him out. He wields no power or respect. As lame as a lame duck could be.

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:15 am It's amazing and a little sad that Trump has lowered the bar so much over the past 4 years that formerly reasonable folks can now listen to something like this and just shrug it off. As with many incidents with Trump, just imagine if Obama had said anything close to that during his presidency. Repubs would have literally been calling for his execution, but when Trump does it all you get is a shrug and a "doesn't sound like Watergate to me"...

you're the one showing Dan Rather comparing it to watergate.

If you keep it in the proper context, then you'd get the appropriate response. The problem is every time Trump does something, to you guys , its tantamount to treason, everything is criminal.

He is a crook.

"The problem is every time Trump does something, to you guys , its tantamount to treason, everything is criminal."

You could leave out "tantamount to"...

tantamount is underused around here

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:41 am Who cares anymore. Just get him out. He wields no power or respect. As lame as a lame duck could be.

He's going to disappear one day, it's like a miracle, he will disappear....

“Well, every major media is taking it out of context,” Dershowitz told Just The News, adding that there was no apparent crime being committed on the phone call by the president.

Mainstream outlets initially reported on Trump’s remarks to Raffensberger as an attempt at a shakedown to “find 11,780 votes” in Georgia for the Nov. 3 presidential contest.

But the full transcript of the call showed that Trump asserted that he won the state and asked the election official to probe election irregularities—like he has been doing for weeks.

“He’s not saying I want you to create the vote,” said Dershowitz in the interview. “He’s not saying I want you to manufacture or concoct the votes. He’s saying, and he’s been saying this for months, on Twitter and his statements and his campaign’s, he thinks that people voted for him and those votes weren’t counted. He’s entitled as a citizen, as a candidate, to say, ‘I want you to find those votes, I want you to find the votes that will pass for me and what weren’t counted, I want you to find votes that were cast against me that shouldn’t have been counted—by people who are dead people, who are out of state.”

Trump’s campaign dismissed the allegations that the president was engaging in untoward or criminal activity when he spoke with Raffensberger.

On Monday, Jason Miller, a campaign adviser, said the full recording and transcript showed Trump was “spot-on in his criticisms of the terrible job Raffensperger did.”

According to a transcript of the call, Trump told Raffensperger: “The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots. He also made reference to allegations of election fraud in the state.

“We’re looking into every one of those things that you mentioned,” one official told Trump on the call. “Let me tell you what we are seeing. What we’re seeing is not at all what you’re describing.”

But the call, which drew widespread media attention, was floated as a possible starting point for another House impeachment investigation into Trump.

And in a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray, Reps. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) and Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.) asked the bureau to launch a criminal probe into the call.

“As Members of Congress and former prosecutors, we believe Donald Trump engaged in solicitation of, or conspiracy to commit, a number of election crimes. We ask you to open an immediate criminal investigation into the President,” they wrote earlier this week.

Dershowitz, for his part, said there was no crime committed.

“I’ve been teaching criminal law for over 50 years,” he added. “I went through every word of that transcript, there is no crime there, period.”

Republicans just don't get it. Fools.