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Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:46 am**

10ac wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:02 pm We've had some spooks come by dressed as Biden tonight. Scary.

Pics or shut up you racist. Were they in white face?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:18 pm**

"fwiw.....his percentage increase in Hispanics will be much greater."

What was it in 2016 and what do you think it will be this year?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:26 pm**

According to Pew Research, Trump got 6% of the black vote in 2016 and 28% of the hispanic vote. If the black vote increases to 18% for Trump, that would be a 200% increase. You say the hispanic vote is going to see a much bigger percentage increase than that, which means it will have to be more than 74% (much more, according to what you said). So, do you really think Trump is going to get more (much more) than 74% of the hispanic vote? If your answer is no, I can only ask: Why did you lie?

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... ed-voters/

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:49 am**

Suddenly Trump likes the people he evicted.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:32 am**

What's the Real Reason Trump Canceled His Election Night Bash At His Hotel?
Ashley Reese Friday 6:00PM•

who knows, right?

FiveThirtyEight Now Makes Joe Biden a Whopping 90 Percent Favorite
By Colby Hall Oct 31st, 2020

POLITICS
The Economist’s Forecast Says Biden Has 94% Chance Of Winning, Dems Likely To Flip Senate

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:31 pm**

My ignorant prediction, so I can look dumb tomorrow, is gonna be Trump. RCP and 538 averages show Texas at about Trump +1. That is way off. Like off by maybe up to 10+ points. Biden has no prayer here. There is zero enthusiasm for Biden here in Houston (and I’m not in any suburb either) Almost none. Obama, Hillary, Beto ORourke for Senate all had huge voter participation here in terms of signs, bumper stickers, etc. I have not seen a single Biden sticker on a car, and this is a place where I can still see an occasional car with a Beto sticker, or hell even a rare old, faded Obama sticker. Nobody is excited to support Biden. As many people voted for Trump in the uncontested GOP primary here than voted for all Democrat candidates combined.

If they are that dead ass wrong about their assumptions on the turnout in Texas, they are probably dead ass wrong by a significant amount in every state. My guess is Democrat stronghold demographics are erroneously expected to still vote en masse and the polls reflect that. But the reality is that young people won’t be showing up. Hispanics won’t show up. Black people wont show up. There’s already rumors everywhere that the blue early vote was weaker than expected and hedging that the blue wave must be waiting until tomorrow.

Well, I’m sure it’s all just gobbledegook and Biden will cruise tomorrow (95%) or whatever.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:15 pm**

aTm wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:31 pm My ignorant prediction, so I can look dumb tomorrow, is gonna be Trump. RCP and 538 averages show Texas at about Trump +1. That is way off. Like off by maybe up to 10+ points. Biden has no prayer here. There is zero enthusiasm for Biden here in Houston (and I’m not in any suburb either) Almost none. Obama, Hillary, Beto ORourke for Senate all had huge voter participation here in terms of signs, bumper stickers, etc. I have not seen a single Biden sticker on a car, and this is a place where I can still see an occasional car with a Beto sticker, or hell even a rare old, faded Obama sticker. Nobody is excited to support Biden. As many people voted for Trump in the uncontested GOP primary here than voted for all Democrat candidates combined.

If they are that dead ass wrong about their assumptions on the turnout in Texas, they are probably dead ass wrong by a significant amount in every state. My guess is Democrat stronghold demographics are erroneously expected to still vote en masse and the polls reflect that. But the reality is that young people won’t be showing up. Hispanics won’t show up. Black people wont show up. There’s already rumors everywhere that the blue early vote was weaker than expected and hedging that the blue wave must be waiting until tomorrow.

Well, I’m sure it’s all just gobbledegook and Biden will cruise tomorrow (95%) or whatever.

I was going to offer a refutation of that but you already did.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:41 pm**

I'm waiting to vote till tomorrow. Wanna see the Proud Boys in there camo.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:37 am**

If Trump wins, then polling is dead. Kaput.

If Biden wins, then America willl be better off. Seriously.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:49 am**

The problem with polling is the liberals have made it so difficult for anyone to publicly admit they support Trump. Between the national media , social media , athletes and hollywood, they aren't allowed to be Trump supporters without being racist, misogynist, xenophobic or immoral. Its a real problem with the left and its why this country is so divided. Not that Trump people don't give it back but there isn't a concerted effort on the right to slander supporters of a party. Yesterday a MSNBC contributor tweeter some comment favoring Hitler over Trump. Its absurd.

I have no idea whether Trump wins or not, but just like last time, he is filling up rallies while Biden is not. That might be intentional in Bidens part, I don't know.

What I will say is that if Trump loses with the level of enthusiasm and support he has, people will believe there is voter fraud and will demand action.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:51 am**

"Not that Trump people don't give it back but there isn't a concerted effort on the right to slander supporters of a party."

Oh really?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:53 am**

Must be voter fraud, that's the only answer...

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:55 am**

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:51 am "Not that Trump people don't give it back but there isn't a concerted effort on the right to slander supporters of a party."

Oh really?

yea, really. You really think its balanced on both sides?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:56 am**

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:53 am Must be voter fraud, that's the only answer...

we had the largest crowd I've ever seen lined up to vote this morning

and multiple people I know from around the country are reporting the same. Its not just the African American community

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:40 am**

eCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:55 am
hedge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:51 am "Not that Trump people don't give it back but there isn't a concerted effort on the right to slander supporters of a party."

Oh really?
yea, really. You really think its balanced on both sides?

I think it's worse on your side, with Trump leading the way. Every other tweet of his equates democrats and liberals with antifa, socialists, etc, etc. So no, I don't think it's balanced at all...

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:56 am**

so Trump and Fox News versus Hollywood, the NFL, the NBA, the Democratic Party., twitter, google, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, the New York Times, The Washington Post, Vox, The Atlantic, and I'm sure I could name 10 others if I sat here long enough

and you think its worse on the right.

For every entity you think is in the tank for Trump, I could name 15 at least that claim to be news media but are clearly against Trump and don't even try to hide it.

also, you have a significant number of democrats who are open socialists - Sanders who represents a significant number of Democratic voters who are self proclaimed democratic socialists, AOC who , while an idiot, its the face of young progressives, and then her band of newly elected foul mouth cohorts. Its completely fair, factual and on point to say that liberals lean toward socialist and want to push a socialist agenda. You had at least 3 presidential candidates who either declared it or openly flirted with the idea.

The Antifa broadstrokes may not be fair, but its definitely liberals who refused to condemn them , you had headlines like this

Rep. Jerry Nadler says Antifa violence in Portland a 'myth'

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:09 am**

Biden will squeak by because of PA and NC mail-ins counted after the election. They'll keep coming and coming until Biden wins those states.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:34 pm**

E cat is going to hate December once Trump loses all his lawsuits. Without being President, he's broke, like saint.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:00 pm**

"and you think its worse on the right."

Without question:

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:07 pm**

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