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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:22 pm
by bluetick
I hear ya.

it's 68 deg where I'm sittin'

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:59 pm
by Jungle Rat
My left nut just won't stop itching today.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:36 pm
by Owlman
Or better yet, drill like crazy in Alaska and the US continental shelf, and become independent from Middle Eastern oil
Even if this would have much of an effect (and most experts think that it would have little effect on global prices which determine the price at the pump), the only way it would work the way you are suggesting is if the U.S. passes a law that all drilling and production from U.S. soil must remain or only be offered in the United States.

I don't think so.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:52 pm
by Professor Tiger
I'll see your anecdotal catastrophism and raise you:

This was just two years ago - a mere nanosecond in meteorological history:
U.S. wraps up record summer lows

By Doyle Rice, USA TODAY

The USA's summer was cooler than average in 2009, for only the second time this decade, according to data released Thursday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.


Several Midwest states — including Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and South Dakota— recorded one of their 10 coldest summers on record. Northwestern Pennsylvania recorded its coldest summer ever. Climate records date to 1895.

At the nation's largest outdoor water park in Wisconsin, "every Saturday but one had an issue with rain, wind or just plain cold," says Tim Gantz, president and co-owner of Noah's Ark Waterpark in Wisconsin Dells, Wis. He added that summer business was down slightly overall, and that one Saturday all 2,000 of the park's wet suits were in use by customers.

July was the second-coldest on record in Wisconsin.


The culprit for the cold? "A recurring trough of low pressure across the central USA and interior Canada, which was there throughout the summer," says Deke Arndt, chief of the climate monitoring branch at the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. Low pressure causes clouds to form, keeping temperatures cool.

The chill continued into August, as temperatures were below normal across the Midwest, Plains and parts of the South. More than 300 low-temperature records were set across the Midwest during the last two days of August.
Sorry Owlman. Manmade Global Warming is bullshit.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:11 pm
by Professor Tiger
Even if this would have much of an effect (and most experts think that it would have little effect on global prices which determine the price at the pump)
Then these "experts" are as intellectually corrupted and/or ideologically blinded as the MMGW "experts."

According to:

Service Report, Potential Oil Production from the Coastal Plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Updated Assessment, was prepared for the U.S. Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources at the request of Chairman Frank H. Murkowski in a letter dated March 10, 2000. The request asked the Energy Information Administration (EIA) to develop plausible scenarios for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) supply development consistent with the most recent U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) resource assessments.

ftp://ftp.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petro ... mmary.html

"There is a 95 percent probability (a 19 in 20 chance) that at least 5.7 billion barrels of oil are recoverable" in ANWR alone. Any "expert" who doesn't think that adding 5.7 billion barrels to the supply of oil will have "little effect on the price at the pump" is an idiot.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:29 am
by Owlman
Professor Tiger wrote:
Sorry Owlman. Manmade Global Warming is bullshit.[/quote]


Sorry is correct. What the hell are you talking about??? I never made a comment about global warming.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:02 am
by Owlman
http://www.factcheck.org/gas_price_fixes_that_wont.html

EIA: ANWR coastal plain oil production in 2025 is projected to constitute between 0.5 to 1.3 percent of total world oil consumption.


Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:50 am
by bluetick
Owlman wrote:
Professor Tiger wrote:
Sorry Owlman. Manmade Global Warming is bullshit.

Sad to see you go down the MMGW road, Owlman.

Sure this has been the hottest decade ever, but there's been some notable cold spells in there as well. Clearly God will exact his revenge at either end of the thermometer, as He sees fit.

Internet porn is our downfall, not fossil fuels.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:52 am
by AlabamAlum
Hotter-than-normal summers over the last 10 years (or whatever) do not prove MMGW.

Colder-than-normal winters over the last 10 years (or whatever) do not disprove MMGW.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:25 am
by TheBigMook
Look, I've seen Fox News, damn it! It fuckin' snowed in winter! Do not fuck with me!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:31 am
by AlabamAlum
Look, I've seen MSNBC, damn it! A fuckin' heat wave in summer! Do not fuck with me!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:32 am
by Owlman
bluetick wrote: Sad to see you go down the MMGW road, Owlman.
Now what are you talking about? I've made no comments about climate change.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:34 am
by AlabamAlum
Owlman,

Why are you such an ardent MMGW supporter?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:39 am
by Hacksaw
Will Owlman ever stop going on and on about MMGW?!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:46 am
by AlabamAlum
Agreed. Hate it when someone has an agenda and takes the conversation hostage.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:57 am
by Owlman
Just stop it. STOP IT. I admit it. I'm the cause of global warming. It's all my fault.

I couldn't help it. It was .....

You just don't understand.

It was .....

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:58 am
by Owlman
a giant fart. I couldn't help myself.

I apologize to all. After the fart, I could see it rising. After that, climate change.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:45 pm
by Big Orange Junky
Our tax dollars at work. But it was just be AWFUL to make this guy support himself.


Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:36 pm
by Toemeesleather
Watching that video makes one understand why Owly, Big Stoop, and Tick argue for higher taxes.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:56 pm
by TheBigMook
Who made you Judge Judy and executioner?